Grizzlie Acquiescence wrote:
> Turin wrote:
> > Grizzlie Dumbshit wrote:
> >
> > > On 28 Feb 2005 12:57:20 -0800, "MALEFEMINIST{at}gmail.com"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> > > >> On 28 Feb 2005 08:25:50 -0800, "Turin"

> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> > > >> >> On 27 Feb 2005 17:30:56 -0800,
"MASCULIST{at}gmail.com"
> > > >> >>  wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >ddnoe{at}bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > >> >> >> Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:10:18
+0000, Freeman
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > >...with a nipple fetish.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Two former employees of
the Gorilla Foundation, home
to
> > Koko
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >> >> > >"talking" ape,
have filed a lawsuit contending that
they
> > > >were
> > > >> >> >> ordered
> > > >> >> >> > >to bond with the
33-year-old female simian by
displaying
> > > >their
> > > >> >> >> > >breasts.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Nancy Alperin and Kendra
Keller, both of San
Francisco,
> > are
> > > >> >taking
> > > >> >> >> on
> > > >> >> >> > >the Woodside nonprofit
and its president, Francine
> > "Penny"
> > > >> >> >> Patterson.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Their lawsuit, filed
Tuesday in San Mateo County
Superior
> > > >> >Court,
> > > >> >> >> > >alleges sexual
discrimination, wrongful termination
in
> > > >> >retaliation
> > > >> >> >> for
> > > >> >> >> > >reporting health and
safety violations, and failure
to
> > pay
> > > >> >> >overtime
> > > >> >> >> or
> > > >> >> >> > >provide rest breaks.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >It seeks more than $1
million total in damages for
the
> > two
> > > >> >women.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >The suit follows
complaints filed by Alperin and
Keller
> > in
> > > >> >January
> > > >> >> >> > >with the California
Department of Fair Employment and
> > > >Housing,
> > > >> >in
> > > >> >> >> > >which they gave
identical reasons for why they were
> > fired:
> > > >"I
> > > >> >> >> refused
> > > >> >> >> > >to expose my breast to
perform acts of bestiality
with
> > one
> > > >of
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >> >> > >gorillas."
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >The lawsuit goes into more detail.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >One example: "On at
least two incidents in
mid-to-late
> > June
> > > >> >2004,
> > > >> >> >> > >Patterson intensely
pressured Keller to expose
herself to
> > > >Koko
> > > >> >> >while
> > > >> >> >> > >they were working
outside where other employees could
> > > >> >potentially
> > > >> >> >> view
> > > >> >> >> > >Keller's naked body. ...
On one such occasion,
Patterson
> > > >said,
> > > >> >> >> 'Koko,
> > > >> >> >> > >you see my nipples all
the time. You are probably
bored
> > with
> > > >my
> > > >> >> >> > >nipples. You need to see
new nipples. I will turn my
back
> > so
> > > >> >> >Kendra
> > > >> >> >> > >can show you her nipples.' "
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>>>>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/18/BAGM9BDI191.DTL
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Whoa!  Some Martian
anthropologist's face is pretty
red
> > right
> > > >> >now.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > This could only have
happened in the San Fran
Freakshow
> > Bay
> > > >> >Area.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> (Denise Noe) Since you wonder
what my reaction is to
this
> > > >story, I
> > > >> >> >will
> > > >> >> >> give it to you.  I was alarmed
and saddened when I read
> > this.
> > > >I
> > > >> >hope
> > > >> >> >> with all my heart that it is
false but find it
> > > >all-too-believable
> > > >> >> >that
> > > >> >> >> Penny Patterson might have asked
something like this of
her
> > > >> >> >employees.
> > > >> >> >> The word "nipple" comes
up in Koko's conversations quite
> > often.
> > > >> >> >> Patterson and others at the
Gorilla Foundation tend to
> > indulge
> > > >the
> > > >> >> >> ape's whims. If these women were
pressured to do
something
> > as
> > > >> >gross
> > > >> >> >as
> > > >> >> >> this, they definitely deserve to
win that lawsuit.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >They need a male supervisor.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>     BTW, Grizzlie, did you read
my thread about my
article
> > > >about
> > > >> >men
> > > >> >> >> and homelessness?  I'd be most
interested to hear what
you
> > > >think
> > > >> >of
> > > >> >> >it.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >I'd like to read it.  I'm kind of an
expert on the
subject.
> > What
> > > >> >> >thread is it?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Yo GA.  What did I do wrong now?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Tom
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> What did you do wrong now WHAT?  The word
"now" sounds like
a
> > ploy
> > > >on
> > > >> >> your part to make it seem as though we've had a
reconciliation
> > > >since
> > > >> >> June 2003.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> We have never reconciled.  We never WILL reconcile.
Nothing
> > has
> > > >> >> changed since June 2003.  Why don't you
just leave me
alone?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Since June 2003, that is all that I've
ever demanded of
you.
> > Just
> > > >> >> leave me alone.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >hahaha ...another infight amongst the backstabbers....
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> This is not a problem of yours, Turd.
> > > >>
> > > >> By virtue of the fact that you have no friends, no allies, no
> > peers,
> > > >> and no one who pays the slightest bit of attention
to anything
> > that
> > > >> you do or say, you have certainly immunized yourself from
> > > >"infighting"
> > > >> or feelings of betrayal.
> > > >
> > > >Hear, hear on Turdin.
> > > >
> > > >June 2003?  The only disagreement I remember was over Wendy
McElroy
> > and
> > > >me being too chummy with her.  You turned out to be right.
> > > >
> > > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > Then I guess that you sacrificed our friendship for nothing,
didn't
> > > you?
> > >
> > > Trying to make bullshit political alliances with man-hating
> > > Pistol-Packing butch feminist pig Wendy McElroy was only bad
> > politics.
> > >
> > > Conspiring with her to try to send me to prison was an
unforgivable
> > > personal affront.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > So, as we can see, male feminist backstabbing involves not only
some of
> > the lowest pieces of slime that you'll ever run into, but it also
gets
> > pretty nasty.
> >
> >
> > Here we have
>
>
> It's too long.  I cut it off at this point.



No, Pussy.  You didn't.
But, thanks for running away before I had to chase you off, again.


(For those who might be new to soc.men, this kind of trolling from the
retard club is a standard situation around here.  If it happens to you
then don't fall for the intent by emulating their passive behaviors.
That's what they thrive on in order to maintain their presences here.

When you read "Plonk" then realize that (ideologically) you're dealing
with a women's rights advocate who simply uses one trolling technique
or another to try to discourage Men from using these groups to talk
about their own issues.  Don't back off from what you came to say.


Most of these geeks have cover stories about themselves, but these
profiles ain't legit.  There is no "Phil Lewis",
"Society", the mealy
mouthed "Antagonist" pussy, or various others.

These are scam artists (like, "Society": AKA Roderick Van Mechelen) and
professionals.  They employ the same media techniques of
inventing"entertainment personalities".  They also use the anonymous
nature of the Internet to masquerade as various other personalities for
their sock puppets in order to shill for each other.


Granted, they are small time, but are mostly failures at what they do,
and also in their own personal pathetic lives....)




- - -

The face of an angel, the charm of the devil ...the power of a god:

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------
http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Men_First/
------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

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> ------------------------------------
> uncletom{at}yahoo.com
>
> "Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause for tonight's
player of the game - FRAN-CIS-CO SAN-N-N-N-TOS!
>     - Brian Anthony (P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium), June 11,
2004
>
>
> "Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
> hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
>
>     - Horace, the Roman poet
>
>
> Logical positivism, dominant in American and
> British universities, is suicidally bent upon
> establishing the impossibility of knowing any-
> thing.  (As Wyndham Lewis suggested in "Self
> Condemned", the neo-positivist pedant reduces
> himself to a mosquito, able to wound, nearly
> invulnerable to counter-assault - but only an
> insect, not a man).
>
>      - Russell Kirk, Enemies of the Permanent
>        Things
> >
> >
> >
> > liberal lowlife, Thomas Shit, versus corporate lowlife,
> > Grizzlie Adjective.  Both are not only some of the phoniest
characters
> > you could meet anywhere, but they're also both collaborators who
stick
> > it to their fellow Men.  This is how they used to find their own
little
> > niches of safety in the everyday dirty game.  Then, they would hand
> > observers canned little philosophies to throw them off.
> >
> > It doesn't really work anymore, though.  Thomas used to get by, by
> > using hackneyed group therapy techniques to brainwash vulnerable
Men
> > into domestication for their wives.  Adjective simply worked
straight
> > in the Protection Order departments of the legal system, helping to
put
> > his fellow Men away.
> >
> > Both knew what worthless traitors they are, but would seek cover
for it
> > by claiming to be "real men", via the rationalization of their
white
> > collar "hunting" prowess which "provides" for
women (oh, and let's
not
> > forget children) in the exploiter professions.
> >
> > And, of course, also by going heavy on the punchy personality.
> >
> > Closet feminists.  Chicken shit pussy fags.
> >
> >
> > However, the cult of Ed Asner is pretty much dead as far as mommy
pimps
> > go.  Men have had enough of both the social worker with an attitude
and
> > the yuppie fag who postures and browbeats.  Non-working pussies
like
> > them both try to rationalize traditional roles into mere abstracts
-
> > for themselves, and to let women do whatever the fuck they want to.
> >
> > Fine, but then they turn around and tell Men to check themselves
for
> > gender-blending.  Huh?  ...yeah, right.  Basically, the game has
been
> > to free themselves by trapping other Men.  No competition - no one
to
> > show them up, and the panty waist can then flap his lips about his
> > hollow victory over Men of other classes all he likes, minus any
> > challenge.
> >
> >
> > But, it isn't such a hot formula anymore.
> >
> > Scumbag traitors like Thomas and Jizzlie Fagtagonist have been
betrayed
> > by the type of women they long collaborated with.  It ain't so easy
for
> > them to fit into the work place - or the home - anymore - no matter