In article ,
 dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote:

> >> > So safe?  Agreed, nothing is safe in family court, but
> >> > the key is that she won't be as quickly motivated to
> >> > move against him for trivial reasons.  After all, all
> >> > he's doing is trying to protect himself.
> >>
> >> Might such a woman pick through his records, when he's at work,
> >> to get evidence of the moved off shore loot ? Could be...
> >
> > PO Box: $80 per year in the states.
>
> Well, my ex tried to hide some documents. I still got 'em.

Safety deposit box?

Heck, I would just love it if there was a place to hide porn. :-)

> > As the industrial revolution kicked in, pseudo forms
> > of prostitution evolved with men taking women out to
> > fancy dinners and trying to get into their pants.
> > Men and women developed a distrust for each other.
>
> Well, certainly more opportunity for that was created. It
> was still every person's choice as to whether they would
> decide to engage in all that.

I remind Parg all the time that people's "choices" are dependant
to a large part upon the society they "choose" to live in.
Unless we live in log cabins in Montana, we have to
learn how to be social.

> > The sexual revolution, as many post-anti-feminists are screaming,
> > was a tool by men to get into women's pants with men tolerating
> > feminism because it meant more casual nookie.  I remember
> > the days when Playboy was a big deal and getting oral sex
> > from normal women was considered unthinkable.  Today, American
> > women are slutty.  Many men like it that way.
>
> Young men... And, its possible to be *relatively* free, yet
> not to slutty. Responsibility is the key word there.

You're sounding a bit like Parg. :-)

In many ways, "relatively" free sex is the most expensive sex
around even if the guy is "responsible" (to the point
of paranoia.)

Many women, as you and I observe, are so messed up that
sex with them is more emotionally draining than anything.

> > Anyways, it's no wonder that these women today are at a loss
> > on how to please men and treat them in a manner to get what
> > they want beyond short-term casual relationships since our
> > society has become focused upon that lifestyle and even
> > worshipping it.
>
> Lets not forget that women's media lies to women about men,
> and that many women *like* those lies, then they get pissed
> off, when the Real World fails to match up with the sold
> lies.

How long have you had a woman in your house? :-)

Women I know love to constantly obsess over possible
horrors.  Take 5 minutes to think about taking out the
trash and I hear a thousand ways that it can
end in disaster.  Watch the Oxygen network sometime.

> > A survey cited by The Week shows that most young men who are
> > avoiding marriage do so because they get the nookie without it.
>
> And, because, in their view, marriage offers little for them,
> and not a little against their interests.

Those were reasons #2 and #3 respectively.  However, it's
clear that the young men often do feel as if they're in
paradise.

> > This is as marriage is gaining new attraction and popularity
> > as I've shown above (neat how they hid that by sandwiching it
> > in with gay marriage.  Now the "liberated" gals don't have
> > to admit they're old fashioned.  They're just joining their
> > "liberated" lesbian friends :-)
>
> Who are among the " trendy " setters of women's fashion, and
> I don't mean only clothes...

HAHAHAHA!

Actually, it's gay MEN who set fashion trends.  Lesbians are
largely tolerated by heterosexual women, but viewed with suspician.

> > The fact is that a young woman with little money for fashion
> > lined up next to a 30 year old attorney with all the
> > latest crap will beat them out.
>
> Indeed.

A friend of mine in the fashion industry laughed at
the paradox: All this shit is designed for young,
thin, tall women and the only women who can
afford it are thirty something married and career
women with frumpy figures.  What to do?

She told me that high end fashion designers take two approaches:
The "special" size (women cannot be honest with themselves
about size.  Have you heard about this?) and have special
"size 7's" which are really size 9's.  Get it?  :-)
And they have special mirrors to try on the clothes
that make them look thin (as in the seinfeld episode.)

The other approach is to just price the shit outrageously
and hope to sell a few to mistresses of rich hollywood
leftists.  Only the highest designers can get away
with this strategy, obviously.

And they're oppressed by US?!?! :-)

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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