On 03-28-17, BILL MCGARRITY said to MIKE POWELL:
-=> Mike Powell wrote to Tim Richardson on 03-27-17 18:26 <=-
MP> Yep, letting them be at the table ruined any chance Obamacare had.
> Funny the press corp missed the irony of Pelosi insisting on seeing `what's
> in it' before getting a vote on it! Eight years ago she was `pass it BEFORE
> showing it' to the public!
MP> That is pretty hilarious. I do remember that also, although I was not
MP> sure it was her or some other Democrat.
BM>Find it funny all those Trumpsters are still screaming about that. The
BM>ACA was signed into law on March 23, 2010 which, according to my calender,
BM>was a shade over 400 days when the previous president took the oath. So
BM>where was it 'rammed down the throats' of anyone?
Give this a careful read because it gets a little complicated....but
McGarrity may want to put his rose-colored glasses on about now to save
himself from any truth getting through to him:
How Obamacare Became Law - Brian Sussman
Brian Sussman
How Obamacare Became Law
June 26, 2015 by Brian Sussman 25 Comments
I originally posted this piece on November 21, 2013. However after
yesterday's Supreme Court ruling it began trending, so I'm reposting it:
It was the trickiest legislative move ever accomplished in the Congress.
Here's my best play-by-play:
Obamacare was signed into law in March 2010. If you recall, Nancy Pelosi's
Democratic majority in the House of Representatives was unable to pass their
version of a healthcare law. Because all revenue bills have to originate in
the House, the Senate found a bill that met those qualifications: HR3590, a
military housing bill. They essentially stripped the bill of its original
language and turned it into the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
(PPACA), aka Obamacare.
The Senate at that time had 60 Democrats, just enough to pass Obamacare.
However after the bill passed the Senate, Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy died.
In his place, Massachusetts elected Republican Scott Brown. That meant that
if the House made any changes to the bill the Senate wouldn't have the
necessary number of votes to pass the amended bill (because they knew no
Republicans would vote for Obamacare). So Senate Leader Harry Reid cut a deal
with Pelosi: the House would pass the Senate bill without any changes if the
Senate agreed to pass a separate bill by the House that made changes to the
Senate version of Obamacare. This second bill was called the Reconciliation
Act of 2010. So the House passed PPACA, the Senate bill, as well as their
Reconciliation Act. At this point PPACA was ready for the President to sign,
but the Senate still needed to pass the Reconciliation Act from the House.
Confused?
We all were.
And it got worse.
Remember that the Senate only had 59 votes to pass the Reconciliation Act
since Republican Scott Brown replaced Democrat Ted Kennedy. Therefore in
order to pass the Act Senate Democrats decided to change the rules. They
declared that they could use the "Reconciliation Rule (this is a different
"reconciliation" than the House bill). This rule was only supposed to be used
for budget item approvals so that such items could be passed with only 51
votes in the Senate, not the usual 60. Reconciliation was never intended to
be used for legislation of the magnitude of Obamacare. But that didn't stop
them.
So both of the "Acts" were able to pass both houses of Congress and sent to
President Obama for his signature without a single Republican vote in favor of
the legislation. The American system of governance was shafted. To quote
Democrat Rep. Alcee Hastings of the House Rules Committee during the bill
process: "We're making up the rules as we go along."
BM>People need to
BM>understand 'time' must be put into the equation when it comes to defining
BM>'rammed'. 64 days is more inline with 'being rammed'. But alas, it's all
BM>moot now as even with a stacked deck the GOP still failed misirably... but
So a careful reading of the above shows that neither `time' or `legality'
were "...put into the equation..."; it was all pretty well rigged by the
democrats right from the git-go!
BM>what else is new.
But then....what else is new.
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