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from: Dg411{at}freenet.Carleton.Ca
date: 2005-03-03 01:42:00
subject: Re: Gender Differences

"Flaig" (BFlaig{at}gmail.com) writes:
> I think the main problem the birthed the "no difference" between the
> sexes philosophy is the problem of men thinking that their inherent
> skills are better skills than women's inherent skills. Traditionally
> almost all left brain processes have been seen as superior to right
> brain or more empathic processes.
>
> Had there been "equality" of value toward the variant skills
then there
> would not be such a strong outcry against the perceived "stereotyping"
> of women. It is precisely because of thousands of years of exalting
> "male skills" and dismissing "female skills" that
has brought about
> this current conundrum. Would you want to be associated with that which
> has been deemed "lesser" for most of our history as a species?
>
> Also, for me, the point of trying end gender bias as well as sexual
> orientation bias is precisely because the "norm" is only a statistical
> construct. Generalizing what one "type" can do versus
another "type"
> because of statistics makes for a lack of awareness of the those
> individuals who do not fit the "type" and it is well past time to set
> men and women on either end of a spectrum when there are many, many,
> many who fit at various points on that spectrum. Masculine women,
> feminine men, androgynous people and so forth.

The real isue is, where are the trend lines and statistical norms.
Your " argument " avoids them, for they show you to be... wrong.

> I, a female, did not like to play with dolls. I wanted cars and trucks
> for toys. I wanted to play outside with the boys and play army and ride
> my "chopped" bicycle and so forth. I never felt I fit in with my
> parents expectations of me as a "girl" or later as a
"woman" - it was
> hard on them and it was hard on me. I grew up in the late 50s, early
> 60s when there weren't many gender role models that did not fit the
> proscribed norm. That norm is damaging to people like me and many
> others I have known who also did not fit the model that society tried
> to force them into.

" The plural of 'anecdote' is NOT 'citation'. "

But, thanks for showing that you have AbZero grasp of science,
as opposed to... gossip.

> American culture is supposed to be a culture of individuals and not a
> culture of predetermined roles.

" Culture " is not a monolith. The Communists believed that it
was. That worked for them very well, don't you think ?



Andre



--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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