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from: Dg411{at}freenet.Carleton.Ca
date: 2005-03-03 01:42:00
subject: Re: requiem for a heavyweight

USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
> On 2 Mar 2005 22:45:14 GMT, dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven)
> wrote:
>
>>USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
>>> On 1 Mar 2005 23:27:13 -0800, "speed loader"

>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Agreed, and well said!  I thought I was the only one who thought the
>>>>sixties was such a crock of shit.  That whole period definitely needs
>>>>to be eradicated.  Fred is usually good, but with this article he's
>>>>just another dopey baby-boomer.
>>>>
>>>>Much of the legislation from that period needs to be
repealed in order
>>>>for some semblance of sanity to return to US society.
>>>
>>> Amen!  The 60's were the Worst Decade of the 20th Century and the
>>> hippy dippy stinky 1944 to 1952 Baby Boomers comprise the Worst
>>> Generation this country has seen to date.  There was never a more
>>> pampered and spoiled bunch of useless brats born in such a small time
>>> span. Their hallmark trait as middle to old agers is that they still
>>> refuse to grow up.
>>
>>Thats only a small part of the 60s.
>
> Not really.  Those early boomers grabbed the spotlight very early on
> in the 60's (when the Beatles were still "Fab") and they never
> completely lost their spot in the center ring, not even today.

I'll grant you that they get most of the PR. But, the other side does
most of the work.

>>Another part included great things like Apollo. Its worth noting
>>that *twice as many people* came out to see the launch of Apollo
>>11, as attended Woodstock, a month later.
>
> I'm not a fan of the space program or Woodstock.  IMO both were wasted
> endeavors for the most part.

On the former, I would disagree. I would recomend a read of Andrew
Chaikin's " A Man On The Moon ", which was used as a primary reference
work for HBO's excellent 1998 miniseries " From The Earth To The
Moon ", which tells the tale both of the space program, to the end
of Apollo, and of the 60s that the program operated in.

>>And, while Woodstock offered three days of events, Apollo 11 offered
>>a view that would last about five minutes, once the engines lit.
>>
>>On that basis, its fair to say that the pop image of the 60s,
>>is the minority one.
>
> Not at all.  The things the hippy dippy brats started during the 60's
> had a long term and still lingering affect on society.  Not to mention
> the great damage LBJ's "Great Society" did to society.  Then there is
> AA and feminism which gained their greatest steam during this same
> decade.

Sure, but the acknowledgement of technology also came from that
time, including the genesis of the systems that we are now using
to share this communication.

>>Now, I do like a fair amount of the music that came from then.
>>But, thats another matter. 
>
> "Fair amount" is an accurate way of stating it.

Sure. It varies. Theres a joke that goes " Did you hear about
the folk music scare ? That shit almost caught on ! ". 

But, the effort and honour of the 60s space program stands
as a great example of the best of western society and men's
working towards a goal.

One day, I should show you around the Air and Space Museum,
and/or Cape Canaveral, and tell you some of the tales of the
history, and men who made it. It was... great. In the best
way.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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