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from: Grizzlie Antagonist griz
date: 2005-03-04 04:59:00
subject: Re: Hyerdahl!!Your village called they want you back!

Why would her village want her back after going to all of the trouble
to get rid of her?



On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:55:16 GMT, "MCP" 
wrote:

>
>"Hyerdahl"  wrote in message
>news:1109870518.130345.71360{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> MCP wrote:
>>
>> Various feminists proclaim that women are 'under siege', that a
>> monstrous social bias against them, if not a virtual war, is going on,
>> that women have little respect or power (Steinem, Faludi, Tavris, etc.)
>>
>> This is not a new proclaimation, nor is it untrue.  There are men in
>> every country who want women bound in some fashion either by using
>> direct and indirect discrimination against them.  As to respect, I
>> don't know of any point in time when men gave respect to women the same
>> way the give and receive it themselves.  However, women today are
>> seeking respect from other women and don't seem to care as much about
>> what men choose to respect.
>>
>>  Yet the notion of the American woman as a powerless
"victim" is one of
>> the most absurd notions ever foisted upon anyone.
>>
>> I agree with you in that American women are more powerful than women in
>> third world nations.  :-)  But then, so are men.  :-)
>>
>> American women live, on average, seven years
>>  longer than men.
>>
>> Men could easily do that if they made better health and risk choices.
>> They simply don't.
>>
>>  They control 86 % of all prsonal wealth [PARADE Magazine,
>>  May 27, 1990],
>>
>> No they don't.  They were tracking the widows of dead men.  :-)
>>
>> and make up 55% of current college graduates.
>>
>> Yes, that is true.
>>
>> Women cast 54% of the votes in Presidential elections, so they can
>> hardly claim to be left out of the political decision-making process!
>>
>> As there is no equal female representation, they are indeed excluded in
>> that representation.  Until women have equal rep.they will be
>> underepreseted.
>>
>> They win almost automatically in child custody disputes.
>>
>> They only win when they are primary caregivers which the couple
>> themselves put into action.  When men are primary caregivers, they win
>> just as often or more.
>>
>>  Women suffer only 6% of the work-related fatalities (the other 94% are
>> suffered by men).
>>
>> Work related fatalities fail to include the home, where many women
>> work.  And we all know that most accidents happen ...at home.
>>
>> Women are the victim of only about 35% of violent crimes, and only
>> about 25% of all murders, yet because of our society's exaggerated
>> concern and respect for them, special
>> > legislation has been passed to punish "violence against
women" as if
>> it were a more heinous crime than "violence against men".
>>
>> Women don't perpetrate that violence and we protect the Amish before we
>> protect two gang bangers.  :-)
>>
>>  (Feminists claim to want> "equality", and this is an
example of what
>> "equality" means to them, i.e., preferential treatment
to address their
>> concerns).
>>
>> It's perfectly ok to be preferential to groups NOT causing the
>> violence.  Society has done that throughout history.
>>
>> Two out of every three dollars spent on health care is spent on women,
>> and even if you don't count pregnancy-related care, women still receive
>> more medical care than men - yet
>> > feminists still holler that womens health is being
"neglected", and
>> far too> many of us credulously believe them.
>>
>> Health funding by private organizations can be spent on whatever those
>> organizations wish to fund.  Grant money is sought under the grant
>> process and if you prove up a need that money is granted on a
>> non-sexist basis.  Blaming women for going that extra mile to acquire
>> grant money smells of sour grapes to me.  Also, women's pregnancy
>> related conditions express themselves long after pregnancy occurs i.e.
>> ovarian cancer.  Surely men benefit by gestation and those things
>> stemming from gestation should be covered.
>>
>> Of the 25 worst jobs, as ranked by the> Jobs Related Almanac based on a
>> combination of salary, stress, security, and
>> physical demands, 24 of them are predominantly, if not almost entirely,
>> male, which might explain why men commit over 80% of all suicides.
>>
>> People CHOOSE the work they do.  Stop blaming women for men making poor
>> choices.  AND, since men are more violent in every other way, why would
>> you think they would be less violent in how they attempt suicide?
>>
>>  (Most of> these statistics come from The Myth of Male Power by Warren
>> Farrell.)
>>
>> Warren Farrell is that dude accused of talking about the "positive
>> effects of incest" between adults and children, no?
>>
>>  Now, if it were really the case, as feminists claim, that men have
>> selfishly> arranged everything to be wonderful for themselves,
>> absolutely ignoring womens' legitimate concerns and needs, would the
>> above be true?
>>
>> No one ever said that, nor need feminists make that point in order to
>> demand equal rights, equal treatment and equal opportunity.  Feminists
>> know that selfish men will be selfish whether or not women label them.
>> :-)  AND, women are now in a position to be concerned over their own
>> rights, and don't need sexist men to be concerned at all.
>>
>>  Of course> not. It is much more realistic to suggest that women have
>> cleverly seized the upper hand by pretending to be helplessly trapped
>> below!
>>
>> Again, how equal is too equal.  Women have indeed seized the day, by
>> their bloodless coup de grace.  :-)  They have secured equal rights at
>> law, here in the west, and are now all about enforcing it, which is why
>> bitter boys like you are yowling.
>> >
>>
>


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