From: "Robert Comer" 

> Baltic Express & Northern Norway run cut close but not over.

You do know there were SR-71's based to the east of the SU too, don't you?
(i.e., those weren't the only 2 tracks by any means.  it's true for most of
the time they stayed out of the SU proper, but then there's probably the
other times...

I really, really, don't think they could have shot down a SR71 in the late
60's/early seventies... (now is different of course, I know we could, so I
expect they can as well.)

- Bob Comer


"Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
news:429f3d78{at}w3.nls.net...
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>>There is indeed. It never went over the SU.
>>
>>
>> I bet it did, in fact I'm pretty sure of it.
>>
>
> mmmmkay....any idea where given the Soviets were very keen on bringing
> such flights down (if over the SU) & areas of interest were known to both
> sides & thus the Sov's had a very impressive SAM defence in depth round
> those areas.
>
> Baltic Express & Northern Norway run cut close but not over.
>
> Adam
>
>
>>
>>> Ummmmmmm Ooookkkkkaaaayyy. Odd how every NATO penetration warplane hit
>>> the deck at about the same time from B52 & Vulcan down to F104'es
>>
>>
>> Not odd at all, it's called radar avoidance and it's a good strategy.
>> The F111 and B1 were design specifically for that role, and the need for
>> a carpet bomber was thought to have passed.
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
>> news:429ecd02{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>Robert Comer wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Same thing. Once you get fast missiles with good
altitude the bombers
>>>>>got fields painted on thier upper sides as from then on
it was under
>>>>>the radar or dead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's not so easy shooting down something that's going
2000mph+. Not only
>>>>does it have to climb to 80,000+ feet, it has to hit something going
>>>>that fast, add a dash of stealth and countermeasures, work the math,
>>>>it's way not easy. There's a reason no SR71 was ever shot down.
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is indeed. It never went over the SU.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>UK TSR2 & the US F-111 (& the retasking of the
B1 for low level & the
>>>>>dev of stealth) are examples of the cognisance that
this entailed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually I think it was the Mig 25 demonstrator plus our ICBM
>>>>capability...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ummmmmmm Ooookkkkkaaaayyy. Odd how every NATO penetration warplane hit
>>> the deck at about the same time from B52 & Vulcan down to F104'es
>>>
>>>Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>- Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Adam Flinton" 
wrote in message
>>>>news:429e2993{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Robert Comer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>As the CIA thought when they sent Gary Powers
off over the SU in
>>>>>>>1960.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>& that was just a SAM2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Powers wasn't flying a fast plane, the U2 is
subsonic, though it can
>>>>>>fly higher than almost anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Same thing. Once you get fast missiles with good
altitude the bombers
>>>>>got fields painted on thier upper sides as from then on
it was under
>>>>>the radar or dead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>UK TSR2 & the US F-111 (& the retasking of the
B1 for low level & the
>>>>>dev of stealth) are examples of the cognisance that
this entailed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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