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to: Adam Flinton
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-06-01 08:17:00
subject: Re: Analysts Linked to Intel Failures Rewarded

From: "Robert Comer" 

> As the CIA thought when they sent Gary Powers off over the SU in 1960.
>
> & that was just a SAM2.

Powers wasn't flying a fast plane, the U2 is subsonic, though it can fly
higher than almost anything else.

- Bob Comer


"Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
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> Tony Ingenoso wrote:
>> FYI - The stock Valkyrie could outrun the SAM's.  That fact is why the
>> Russians launched the Mig25 project in the first place.
>>
>
> Which SAM'es were these? The ones in existence when the B70 went to design
> or those which were developed specifically to deal with all high & fast
> targets (inc the SR71)?
>
> Early 60'es were a boom time in Soviet Missile development. Look at the
> diff between the Arab Israeli 67 & 73 wars.
>
> 50-'es to mid 60'es the main emphasis was on ICBM rocket motors but then
> what with Gary Powers etc.
>
> SA-3 > 6 came out in the 60'es
>
> It was possible the SA-4 Ganef was designed specifically for the high
> altitude high speed engagements.
>
> The SA-5 definitely was.
>
>> You can't hit what you can't catch.
>>
>
> As the CIA thought when they sent Gary Powers off over the SU in 1960.
>
> & that was just a SAM2.
>
> It became not so much missile performance as comms/EW i.e. if the B70 got
> through the missile belt while the crews were still warming up the valves
> etc then there was a possibility however slight that it would be a tail
> chase & then yup the B70 might in effect outrange the missiles.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
>> news:429cb84e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>The real reason was the increasing reach of SU SAM's.
>>

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