From: "Robert Comer" 

> There is indeed. It never went over the SU.

I bet it did, in fact I'm pretty sure of it.

>  Ummmmmmm Ooookkkkkaaaayyy. Odd how every NATO penetration warplane hit
> the deck at about the same time from B52 & Vulcan down to F104'es

Not odd at all, it's called radar avoidance and it's a good strategy.  The
F111 and B1 were design specifically for that role, and the need for a
carpet bomber was thought to have passed.

- Bob Comer


"Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
news:429ecd02{at}w3.nls.net...
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>>Same thing. Once you get fast missiles with good altitude the bombers got
>>>fields painted on thier upper sides as from then on it was under the
>>>radar or dead.
>>
>>
>> It's not so easy shooting down something that's going 2000mph+. Not only
>> does it have to climb to 80,000+ feet, it has to hit something going that
>> fast, add a dash of stealth and countermeasures, work the math, it's way
>> not easy. There's a reason no SR71 was ever shot down.
>>
>
> There is indeed. It never went over the SU.
>
>>
>>>UK TSR2 & the US F-111 (& the retasking of the B1 for
low level & the dev
>>>of stealth) are examples of the cognisance that this entailed.
>>
>>
>> Actually I think it was the Mig 25 demonstrator plus our ICBM
>> capability...
>>
>
>  Ummmmmmm Ooookkkkkaaaayyy. Odd how every NATO penetration warplane hit
> the deck at about the same time from B52 & Vulcan down to F104'es
>
> Adam
>
>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
>> news:429e2993{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>Robert Comer wrote:
>>>
>>>>>As the CIA thought when they sent Gary Powers off over
the SU in 1960.
>>>>>
>>>>>& that was just a SAM2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Powers wasn't flying a fast plane, the U2 is subsonic,
though it can fly
>>>>higher than almost anything else.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Same thing. Once you get fast missiles with good altitude the bombers got
>>>fields painted on thier upper sides as from then on it was under the
>>>radar or dead.
>>>
>>>
>>>UK TSR2 & the US F-111 (& the retasking of the B1 for
low level & the dev
>>>of stealth) are examples of the cognisance that this entailed.
>>>
>>>Adam
>>
>>

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