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from: Mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.Com
date: 2005-03-04 21:03:00
subject: Re: Need some advice please...

the Danimal wrote:
> GoddessBaybee wrote:
> > If I was in this situation, I'd seriously consider breaking up with
> the guy.
> > IMO, if a guy goes to a prostitute that says there is something
> fundamentally
> > wrong with his view of sex.
>
> Sobolewski wept.

McGruff the crime dog says:

> I would be more concerned with the john's view of the law, if he
> hired a prostitute in some jurisdiction where prostitutes are
> illegal. Even when we do not agree with a law, choosing to break
> it is a serious decision. A person who thinks it is OK to break
> one law might break others, and I would want to know which other
> laws that person considers OK to break. Just so as to be ready
> if the cops kick down the front door.

So if someone speeds or jaywalks, they are also a potential
crack dealer... Sounds like a slippery slope.

In most cities, it's possible to get prostitutes by going
to massage parlors or to some places that have a clever
arrangement (you wait for her to go to the bathroom,
you leave money hidden under the lamp, you go to the bathroom,
you come back and suddenly you have a hot woman who
wants you in bed!  Who knows who took the money?)

> So, GoddessBaybee, why do you think there is something
> "fundamentally wrong" with the john's view of sex? I think most
> men would be in the market for a hooker if she looked
> breathtakingly hot and the total cost was sufficiently low.
> Even guys who claim to be religious (see: Jimmy Swaggart and
> Jim Bakker). Even "happily" married guys.
>
> For example, suppose I could hire Halle Berry to make sweet
> love to me for a dollar, all completely legal, with Halle
> Berry checked out thoroughly by doctors and declared
> disease-free. How many men could say no to that offer?
> How many could even formulate the concept of saying no?
>
> I think there would something fundamentally gay about a man
> who could shrug off that offer.

This is especially a strange concept when so many men
engage in pseudo prostitution by paying for a date
in the hopes of getting into a woman's pants.  How
is this better?  I suppose GoddessBaybee would say
that the man is paying to BEG for sex, so that makes
it somehow better.

> Or maybe if a man is in the very early stages of some
> torrid new romance with a woman he really likes. For
> the first month or two he might not notice other women
> much. But that phase tends to wear off quickly.
>
> In real life, of course, the actual cost (as well as the
> POTENTIAL costs: deadly diseases, getting arrested) of sex
> with a hooker is much higher than a dollar,

I think first offenses usually aren't that big a deal
and unless the person is really careless (as soon
on COPS) he probably isn't going to get caught anyway.

> and there
> probably aren't any hookers who look as good as Halle Berry
> (if they did look that good, they would earn more money as
> models, actresses, trophy wives, etc., without needing to
> have sex with any men they find unattractive). So most men
> find it a better deal to get sex by taking ordinary women
> out and buying them dinner.

One reason might be that the men simply don't have the contacts
or knowledge on how to procure services.

Quick question: Did you drink alcohol before you were 21?
That certainly was illegal.

regards,
Mark Sobolewski



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