Hi Gord,


   Quoting: Gord Hannah to Herman Neut
 Date/Time: 12-Oct-06 / 13:20:17
   Subject: This echo

 GH> Replying to a message from Herman Neut 2:280/1141 to All,

 GH> About This echo, On Thu Oct 12 2006

 HN>> Anybody seen the moderator and his rules??

 GH> What can I do for you Herman?

Don't know. I wondered if there is still anybody in this echo. Last msg is
almost 1 year old;-)
Last received echorules are longer ago received...

So I just wanted to know if there is still anything going on with Terminate
and TerMail.

 GH> The rules are simple any discussion
 GH> pertaining to Terminate and Termail, is acceptable

Sure. But to 3rd party utilities and other software used in cooperation
with Terminate/TerMail too. Isn't that right?

 GH> Dan Ceppa and myself and any one else that is reading this echo
 GH> would probably be able to help the newbie

Oh, I am not a newbie;-))

I'm a registered user for a long time. Registered March 15, 1994 at Thomas
Bradford (BMT Micro, Wilmington NC)

First running under "plain old DOS" and with 1400bps modem as a BBS user
and point. With a 386 PC. In the years faster modems came and even ISDN
(Teles card adaptor) Even used it as a node and BBS;-)
Faster PC's came: 486 and Pentium100. In the later 1990 years Windows 95
was used.
When a new PC with 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 and Windows XP came along, Terminate
needed a patch for "runtime error". It worked, but the Terminate mailer
became a little instable. With TerMail there has never been a problem.

Today I run Terminate/TerMail as a node. The mailer is BinkD.
TerMail works very fine with BinkD.
The only part of Terminate I daily use is Terminate Commander with all old
well-known DOS utilities incorporated (QEdit, Shez, etc etc)

All this in a full screen Windows box.
So real text mode. Same 30 lines ascii, same color config as from the old
MSDOS time.
I even can read and write Russian Cyrillics in this screen mode:
Привет, Gord!


 GH> Hope this helps.  Keep us posted.

 GH> We are a fine board trying to make it better.

Sounds very familiar from years ago;-)


Remember this? :


= INT Terminate support ================================================HUBInt=
Msg  :   55     [1-1994]
From : Steve Stacher                       03-Oct-98  23:50:57  2:443/888.1
To   : All
Subj : Monthly Rules Posting
======================================================================TERMINAT=
               International "TERMINAT" Conference Rules

                Moderator   : Steve Stacher, 2:443/888 (Fidonet)
                Moderator   : Bo Bendtsen,   bo{at}terminate.com

                    --- Last revised: 27 July 98 ---

   1. The topic in this conference is the terminal program Terminate
      and/or utilities related to the that program, including 3rd Party
      developed programs which directly support or enhance the use of
      Terminate.

   2. The use of the term "Terminate" within this conference is
      restricted to defining a certain terminal program, the author of
      which is Bo Bendtsen. Said program being commonly referred
      to and properly named: Terminate

      Any other use, form of discussion, or reference to the term
      "Terminate" is strictly forbidden, being limited to discussion(s)
      of ONLY that specified program authored by Bo Bendtsen.

   3. This is an International Support Conference. All correspondence must
      be in English. Commercial business inquiries, support, questions,
      items for-sale, and other non-related information should be handled
      via Crash NetMail or other media as indicated by the commercial
      distributors.

   4. Terminate "feature" announcements, inquiries, and the general
      discussion of Terminate and/or related 3rd Party developed
      software as defined above, to include program technical assistance
      by others from within the conference, are welcome.

   5. Additional Gating of this conference into any network beyond
      FidoNet is not permitted without written permission of the
      Moderator and must be accompanied by a written verification of
      Echolist database update before gating is allowed. Request for
      such Gating should be directed to 2:443/888{at}fidonet.

   6. This conference is NOT limited to FidoNet; it is open to any
      network and system that wishes to carry this conference (assuming
      para. 5 is followed). Messages in this conference must conform
      with the FTSC (FidoNet Technical Standards Committee) format and
      must contain both tear and origin lines. The tear line may not be
      longer than 35 characters including the --- characters. The origin
      line must fit on one 80 character wide CRT including the " #
      Origin: " text.

   7. Please keep the amount of quoted text down to the BARE ESSENTIALS.
      Do not quote SEEN-BY and/or " # Origin: " information unless it is
      ABSOLUTELY necessary. One of the biggest costs with distributed
      mail conferences is the use and ABUSE of the quote feature.

   8. Your message must contain sufficient information to allow a Reply
      via NetMail through normal FidoNet distribution channels.

   9. Foul or harsh language is not tolerable and will not be accepted
      as a standard for behavior within this conference. If you do not
      like what someone has to say for personal reasons, send that
      person(s) a reply using NetMail - not EchoMail.

  10. Eight-bit ASCII is not allowed in this conference. All characters
      in displayed message data (text/header) must be in the range 32 to
      126, which rules out control characters. The ONLY exceptions to
      this rule are: if you need to show someone a translation table
      that contains eight-bit ASCII, and/or the default TMAIL "arrow"
      signature style.

  11. File listings and advertisements are not welcome except from
      authorized Terminate dealers, or from the author of Terminate. 3rd
      Party developers whose programs directly support or enhance the
      use of Terminate are specifically excluded from this paragraph.
      Sample files and examples of batch files are welcome as they serve
      a useful and constructive purpose.

  12. Please keep "Thank you" and "This is a test"
messages in NETMAIL,
      where they belong. People are paying a lot of money to
      Import/Export this conference around the world, and if we can keep
      unnecessary overhead down, everyone will be much happier.

  13. Before posting queries and/or questions about problems and their
      solution, please make sure you have read the documentation for the
      program in question. All too frequently, the questions asked can
      be answered by simply reading a few paragraphs in the program's
      documentation.

  14. There is currently one Moderator. Co-Moderators may be assigned as
      needed. If you have a problem with someone, please inform a
      Moderator about it; Do NOT post "Flames", etc. in this
      conference!!

  15. Messages in the Terminat conference are expected to remain "On
      Topic" at ALL times. Messages not related to the actual use of,
      technical support of, or related programs and utilities of,
      Terminate are specifically NOT allowed in this conference.

  16. If any of the official moderators inform you that your message(s)
      are "Off Topic", or request that you take your theme to NetMail,
      please do so.


      Steve Stacher 2:443/888{at}fidonet, sales{at}terminate.com
      Moderator - TERMINAT Support Conference


         THE "TERMINAT" CONFERENCE FAQ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

                     --- Last revised: 27 July 98 ---

   Q : What is a FAQ ?
   A : Well, this is a FAQ. FAQ is short for Frequently Asked Question.
       This is a list of frequently asked questions about Terminate and
       TerMail, in order to answer a lot of questions within one single
       document. Therefore a 'newbee' can easily learn a lot within a short
       period of time.

   Q: What is Terminate ?
   A: Terminate is a communication program, a fax program, a fidonet mailer
      program, a tosser/scanner/packer, a QWK offline reader, a filemanager,
      a mini-bbs, a programming language and much much more...

   Q: What is the story about these false versions ?
   A: A person that used to be a dealer of Terminate was thrown out and
      because of that, he decided to invent a story about having
      bought the copyright and trademark. He hired some young Russian
      programmers to make false freeware versions only to annoy me, fidonet
      and all the other users of the real Terminate.
      The current false versions in circulation are:
        1.56 1.57 1.58 1.59 1.60, 1.70

   Q : I'm not sure what's what, so what is what ?
   A : There is sometimes a little confusion about what is Terminate,
       Terminate's point-system and TerMail. In order to communicate
       clearly I'll show you some screen-shots of these parts of the
       program. I have cut some pieces in order to make the FAQ smaller,
       but that shouldn't be any problem.

   Q : What is a point ?
   A : A point is a person (above all :-) ) who has got some experience
       with FIDO-net and wanted to spend less money on his hobby. He got
       some software (like Terminate & TerMail) and arranged with a sysop
       (node) to become his 'boss'. The point can now login very fast on
       the BBS and get his mail. This is done completely automatic, and
       thus very fast, and thus very cheap. All his mail is already packed
       saving even more money. You don't have to be a wizzkid to become a
       point, but a little experience using computers and FIDO-net will
       proof to be helpful. Look for TERPOINT.ZIP for more info about
       points.

   Q : I have a modem that Terminate doesn't seem to support, can't I use
       Terminate ?
   A : Of course you can use Terminate, but when Terminate was released
       your modem wasn't released yet. You will have to use the Generic
       modem. Normally the default settings should work just fine. If you
       still can't get it to work, you will have to come up with your own
       init-string. Ask for it in a modem echo, there are a lot of people
       who can help you there. And remember it doesn't really matter which
       program you are using, the settings will be the same with every
       program. If you find good settings, Netmail them to Bo Bendtsen, so
       he can put them in the next version. This way we all help to make
       Terminate even better. To test if your modem is Terminate compatible
       enter the following command on the terminal screen
"TERMINAT" if your
       modem responds "OK" then it is alright.

   Q : AVATAR/ANSI doesn't seem to work within Terminate, all the screens I
       receive from a BBS are unreadable, or my modem locks up, what should
       I do ?
   A : Most of the time this can be solved by disabling Xon-Xoff software
       flow control. You can do this from the Options menu (ALT-O),
       Communications Setup, and then choose your modem. Make sure you turn
       of Software flow control (Xon/Xoff) in your modem's settings as
       well. You also have to turn ON Hardware flowcontrol CTS/RTS. If it
       still doesn't work setup Terminate to use only ANSI for this
       particular BBS. In that case make sure the BBS only sends you
       ANSI-screens.

   Q : What about Terminate in Windows 3.1x / Win9?
   A : While it's a DOS program and therefore works best under DOS, you can
       use it under MS-Windows 3.1x. Testing has shown that it works well
       for most of us under Windows for Workgroups v3.11. Windows 3.10 and
       Windows 3.11 are not different on the comm's part. Windows for
       Workgroups however is much better suited for communications. You
       should use Windows for Workgroups v3.11 if you can. I've heard from
       some people Terminate performs well under Windows95/98.

   Q : What about Terminate in OS/2 ?
   A : It can be done of course but you'll need special comm's drivers. The
       best you can use are the SIO-drivers made by Ray Gwinn (SIO145.*)
       Same as with Windows, maybe in the future there will be an OS/2
       version.

   Q : What is the strange version number I sometimes see ?
   A : This could be internal test version that the testers are allowed
       to use before releasing. The test numbers will look like this:
       Alpha version 4.99a01  01 = Revision number 1
       Beta  version 4.99b03  03 = Revision number 3
       Gamma version 4.99g09  09 = Revesion number 9
       The entire test procedure for Terminate is entensive and
       would take to long to explain, just remember it is done proberly
       and that takes time.

   Q : When is the next version coming out ?
   A : Version 5 may be the last release, although a patch to fix some
       minor bugs is under development

-!- Terminate 5.00/Pro*at [*Factory*]
 {at} Origin: The Snow Cave - Terminate UK Reg Site & Global Factory (2:443/888.1)





Best Regards,
      Herman Neut

 e-mail: h.neutnospam{at}hccnet.nl

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