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from: Gary Britt
date: 2005-06-03 18:05:26
subject: Re: Tragic Dog loss

From: "Gary Britt" 

So does it sound like to you the first dog was poisoned before the trip and
the second dog wasn't poisoned until they came back??

Gary

"Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
news:42a0c2b7{at}w3.nls.net...
> Nope, she noticed some slight blood on the corner of the mouth of Stormy
on
> Friday prior to leaving for Alabama, and didn't seem worried about it till
> Saturday night.  So, a good day and a half with no treatment.  Possibly
> could have saved that dog.
>
> Spencer came down sick Thursday, after she got back home on Monday/Tuesday
> time frame (don't know when she actually got home, I think Tuesday mid
> morning).
>
> Latest news from her:
>
> just talked to vet again.
>
> she is stablized ... and her blood is clotting a lot better than
yesterday.
> he says she is not leeding out anymore, or at least it is not much. in
fact
> he says she's beginning to very slowly reabsorb that blood. All which is
> very good news. (without the vit. k he is giving her, she would not be
able
> to clot on her own though!)
>
> He is sending her home tonight and we will repeat the process tomorrow!He
> took xrays and unlike stormy her lungs are clear and all her organs appear
> to be good! Sunday I will just have to take super caution with her all day
> since the vet is closed. But he's giving me a prescription for vitK to
keep
> her blood clotting. the bad thing about it is that it's 20 pills - two
times
> a day and they don't taste good, so i'll have to find something to hide
them
> in that she will eat. If she pulls thru this weekend, that is a very good
> sign she is going to make it... after that, she'll need to remain on all
> that vitk for a full month because he said that rat poison is long term
and
> will take that long to really flush out of her so she can clot on her own.
> I'm glad he's talking long term, but i hope it's just not for my sake. i
am
> staying very positive though because she is showing signs of improvement,
> even if they are minimal... and she's maintaining a very positive attitude
> herself!!!!! I am very proud of her and know she is going to pull thru
> this - as critical as it is right now.
>
> t
> --
>
> Glenn M.
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:42a0bbf2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > Weren't they on a trip with these dogs and not at home when the first
dog
> > came down with the poisoning?
> >
> > Just reading the descriptions of what happened to these poor dogs is
> > enough
> > to make my blood boil.  If I knew who did it, and I was the dog owner.
I
> > would seriously consider taking a baseball bat to their knees and other
> > places.
> >
> > Gary Britt
> >
> > "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
> > news:42a0865f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> On the feeding poison, I agree.  Both of these Choc. Labs were the
> > greatest
> >> dogs, very gentle, playful, and super intelligent.  There are some
really
> >> mean people out there.  Both dogs were properly fenced in, NEVER ran
> > loose,
> >> always had plenty of food/water.  She has a dog door in the kitchen, so
> > the
> >> dogs can come/go to the outside as they like, and stay out of the heat
> > when
> >> she's not home.
> >>
> >> If Spencer survives, I'd be concerned that whoever did this, might do
it
> >> again.
> >>
> >> And this just in from her...
> >>
> >> just talked with the vet.
> >>
> >> actually not great news. he said she is improving in some areas, but it
> >> still is very. very critical with her and there are some areas where
she
> > has
> >> gotten worse. my mind is a whirl so i'm not even sure what he said at
> >> this
> >> point, other than i recall him mentioning her internal bleeding - with
> >> the
> >> doses of vit.K he's been giving her she is now clotting within 7
> >> minutes -
> >> he said that has greatly improved since yesterday - normal is 5, she
was
> > 30.
> >> On her own, her blood will not clot for at least a month he said, so
she
> >> will need to remain on vitK for a long time...
> >>
> >> what he's now really concerned about is her red blood cell count and
the
> >> amount of oxygen in it. those numbers are incredibly low. he's doing
all
> > he
> >> can to help that, taking more tests, taking xrays soon...... she is not
> >> so
> >> bad that she needs a blood transfusion yet though. he wants to be
> > optimistic
> >> in that she is slightly improving, but he said quite honestly her
> > condition
> >> is very poor. Tonight and tomorrow are going to be very critical for
> > her...
> >> so please just keep her in your prayers..... she needs it!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> thank you,
> >>
> >> t
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Glenn M.
> >> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> news:42a06b97{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > How could someone feed someone else's pet rat poison, that's just
plain
> >> > sick.
> >> >
> >> > I don't like dogs, but I sure as heck wouldn't kill them.
> >> >
> >> > - Bob Comer
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Glenn Meadows" 
wrote in message
> >> > news:42a06780{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> Today's good news.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good Morning Glenn,
> >> >>
> >> >> (and yes, it is a good morning!)
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have everyone's email here at home, so
please pass the good
> > news
> >> >> on to them and let everyone know how thankful I am for all the
> >> >> support,
> >> >> prayer and understanding Spencer and I have received thru this
> >> >> horrible
> >> >> horrible ordeal!
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, the latest:Last night the vet allowed me to
take Spencer
home
> >> >> because he had gotten her stabilized (and no one was
going to be
there
> >> >> anyway, so taking her home was better than taking her to the
emergency
> >> >> clinic for the night again, as long as she remained
stabilized.) I
am
> >> >> soooo darn proud of my Spencer Dog! She did really great last
> > night!!!!!
> >> >> She is just such a trooper and really hanging in
there and fighting
> >> >> this!She got a LOT of rest and was happy to be home.
I stayed with
her
> > in
> >> >> the den all night keeping a close eye on her. She
rested fairly
> >> >> comfortably all night, just getting up for a
bathroom break a few
> > times,
> >> >> to which there was NO blood!!!!! She drank her
water, wanted to
gobble
> >> >> down milk bones and was perkier than the day before!
> >> >>
> >> >> Got her to the vet first thing this morning - he's
going to hook her
> >> >> up
> >> >> to IV again, give her all her vitamins, antibiotics,
etc. And just
> >> >> keep
> > a
> >> >> close eye on her all day... followed up with a few
repeat blood
tests
> > and
> >> >> whatnot. We're still waiting on several results,
which should come
> > within
> >> >> the next few days. Basically the doctor is convinced someone
> >> >> intentionally fed her (and Stormy) rat poison. I was
able to catch
> >> >> Spencer in time (we hope) but, God Bless my little Stormy, she
didn't
> >> >> have such luck.  Anyway, I really truly believe
Spencer is going to
> > pull
> >> >> thru this...
> >> >>
> >> >> It's obvious she's not feeling well, but she's going
to be back to
her
> >> >> normal wiggly self soon, I just know it!!! God, I am
just soooooo
> >> >> relieved - even though I know she's not out of the
woods yet because
> > the
> >> >> doc said the poison could still be effecting her...
but, all signs
> >> >> show
> >> >> that she's going to improve, so that is what i'm
going to believe
> >> >> in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Her recovery is going to be quite long and
extensive, but at this
> > point,
> >> >> I'm just thrilled to be able to speak of 'recovery!'
Please let
> > everyone
> >> >> know that my big chocolate moose is really doing well!
> >> >>
> >> >> I will keep you posted as the day goes by on her
condition and any
> >> >> further news!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for all your thoughts and concern, I have
to believe that
> >> >> all
> >> >> the support she has thru friends and prayer is a big
factor in all
> >> >> this!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> T
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Glenn M.
> >> >> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >> news:429f411a{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >>>I really hope they have that dog isolated.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Bob Comer
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Glenn Meadows"
 wrote in message
> >> >>> news:429f3db9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >>>> Don't know, just got this update from her:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ----------------------------------------
> >> >>>> I just spoke with the vet...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> my poor spencer. her condition is stabilized
for now, but... that
> > isn't
> >> >>>> necessarily a good thing considering they
can't stop her bleeding.
> > they
> >> >>>> can't get her blood to clot. my vet is
talking to the vet that
> >> >>>> worked
> >> >>>> on stormy and both are more confused than
ever - they have never
> >> >>>> seen
> >> >>>> anything like this - it's almost like an
ebola virus or something.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I don't think i have long with her, so i
will have to head to the
> >> >>>> vet
> >> >>>> soon again. I am just sick... so incredibly
sick. those sweet
little
> >> >>>> girls didn't deserve this!!!!!!!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ----------------------------------------
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hopefully, they'll do some serious
invsetigation on this to find
the
> >> >>>> cause...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Asian Bird Flu?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Glenn M.
> >> >>>> "Mike N."
 wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:ktbu91p15p10t7bkqg0vc9f8677l9f84pn{at}4ax.com...
> >> >>>>> Assuming it's not an unusual virus or
bacteria, the next thing
that
> >> >>>>> comes
> >> >>>>> to mind is accidental ingestion of rat
poison/warfarin/extreme
> >> >>>>> blood
> >> >>>>> thinner.   If they ate the same dog
food, could the dog food be
> >> >>>>> contaminated?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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