From: "Glenn Meadows" 

Yes, that's the working theory right now.

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Glenn M.
"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:42a0d347$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> So does it sound like to you the first dog was poisoned before the trip
> and
> the second dog wasn't poisoned until they came back??
>
> Gary
>
> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
> news:42a0c2b7{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Nope, she noticed some slight blood on the corner of the mouth of Stormy
> on
>> Friday prior to leaving for Alabama, and didn't seem worried about it
>> till
>> Saturday night.  So, a good day and a half with no treatment.  Possibly
>> could have saved that dog.
>>
>> Spencer came down sick Thursday, after she got back home on
>> Monday/Tuesday
>> time frame (don't know when she actually got home, I think Tuesday mid
>> morning).
>>
>> Latest news from her:
>>
>> just talked to vet again.
>>
>> she is stablized ... and her blood is clotting a lot better than
> yesterday.
>> he says she is not leeding out anymore, or at least it is not much. in
> fact
>> he says she's beginning to very slowly reabsorb that blood. All which is
>> very good news. (without the vit. k he is giving her, she would not be
> able
>> to clot on her own though!)
>>
>> He is sending her home tonight and we will repeat the process tomorrow!He
>> took xrays and unlike stormy her lungs are clear and all her organs
>> appear
>> to be good! Sunday I will just have to take super caution with her all
>> day
>> since the vet is closed. But he's giving me a prescription for vitK to
> keep
>> her blood clotting. the bad thing about it is that it's 20 pills - two
> times
>> a day and they don't taste good, so i'll have to find something to hide
> them
>> in that she will eat. If she pulls thru this weekend, that is a very good
>> sign she is going to make it... after that, she'll need to remain on all
>> that vitk for a full month because he said that rat poison is long term
> and
>> will take that long to really flush out of her so she can clot on her
>> own.
>> I'm glad he's talking long term, but i hope it's just not for my sake. i
> am
>> staying very positive though because she is showing signs of improvement,
>> even if they are minimal... and she's maintaining a very positive
>> attitude
>> herself!!!!! I am very proud of her and know she is going to pull thru
>> this - as critical as it is right now.
>>
>> t
>> --
>>
>> Glenn M.
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:42a0bbf2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Weren't they on a trip with these dogs and not at home when the first
> dog
>> > came down with the poisoning?
>> >
>> > Just reading the descriptions of what happened to these poor dogs is
>> > enough
>> > to make my blood boil.  If I knew who did it, and I was the dog owner.
> I
>> > would seriously consider taking a baseball bat to their knees and other
>> > places.
>> >
>> > Gary Britt
>> >
>> > "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
>> > news:42a0865f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> On the feeding poison, I agree.  Both of these Choc. Labs were the
>> > greatest
>> >> dogs, very gentle, playful, and super intelligent.  There are some
> really
>> >> mean people out there.  Both dogs were properly fenced
in, NEVER ran
>> > loose,
>> >> always had plenty of food/water.  She has a dog door in
the kitchen,
>> >> so
>> > the
>> >> dogs can come/go to the outside as they like, and stay
out of the heat
>> > when
>> >> she's not home.
>> >>
>> >> If Spencer survives, I'd be concerned that whoever did
this, might do
> it
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> And this just in from her...
>> >>
>> >> just talked with the vet.
>> >>
>> >> actually not great news. he said she is improving in some
areas, but
>> >> it
>> >> still is very. very critical with her and there are some
areas where
> she
>> > has
>> >> gotten worse. my mind is a whirl so i'm not even sure
what he said at
>> >> this
>> >> point, other than i recall him mentioning her internal
bleeding - with
>> >> the
>> >> doses of vit.K he's been giving her she is now clotting within 7
>> >> minutes -
>> >> he said that has greatly improved since yesterday -
normal is 5, she
> was
>> > 30.
>> >> On her own, her blood will not clot for at least a month
he said, so
> she
>> >> will need to remain on vitK for a long time...
>> >>
>> >> what he's now really concerned about is her red blood
cell count and
> the
>> >> amount of oxygen in it. those numbers are incredibly low.
he's doing
> all
>> > he
>> >> can to help that, taking more tests, taking xrays soon...... she is
>> >> not
>> >> so
>> >> bad that she needs a blood transfusion yet though. he wants to be
>> > optimistic
>> >> in that she is slightly improving, but he said quite honestly her
>> > condition
>> >> is very poor. Tonight and tomorrow are going to be very
critical for
>> > her...
>> >> so please just keep her in your prayers..... she needs
it!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> thank you,
>> >>
>> >> t
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Glenn M.
>> >> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> news:42a06b97{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > How could someone feed someone else's pet rat
poison, that's just
> plain
>> >> > sick.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't like dogs, but I sure as heck wouldn't kill them.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Bob Comer
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Glenn Meadows"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:42a06780{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Today's good news.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good Morning Glenn,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (and yes, it is a good morning!)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't have everyone's email here at home, so
please pass the good
>> > news
>> >> >> on to them and let everyone know how thankful I
am for all the
>> >> >> support,
>> >> >> prayer and understanding Spencer and I have
received thru this
>> >> >> horrible
>> >> >> horrible ordeal!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyway, the latest:Last night the vet allowed me
to take Spencer
> home
>> >> >> because he had gotten her stabilized (and no one
was going to be
> there
>> >> >> anyway, so taking her home was better than
taking her to the
> emergency
>> >> >> clinic for the night again, as long as she
remained stabilized.) I
> am
>> >> >> soooo darn proud of my Spencer Dog! She did
really great last
>> > night!!!!!
>> >> >> She is just such a trooper and really hanging in
there and fighting
>> >> >> this!She got a LOT of rest and was happy to be
home. I stayed with
> her
>> > in
>> >> >> the den all night keeping a close eye on her.
She rested fairly
>> >> >> comfortably all night, just getting up for a
bathroom break a few
>> > times,
>> >> >> to which there was NO blood!!!!! She drank her
water, wanted to
> gobble
>> >> >> down milk bones and was perkier than the day before!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Got her to the vet first thing this morning -
he's going to hook
>> >> >> her
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> to IV again, give her all her vitamins,
antibiotics, etc. And just
>> >> >> keep
>> > a
>> >> >> close eye on her all day... followed up with a
few repeat blood
> tests
>> > and
>> >> >> whatnot. We're still waiting on several results,
which should come
>> > within
>> >> >> the next few days. Basically the doctor is
convinced someone
>> >> >> intentionally fed her (and Stormy) rat poison. I
was able to catch
>> >> >> Spencer in time (we hope) but, God Bless my
little Stormy, she
> didn't
>> >> >> have such luck.  Anyway, I really truly believe
Spencer is going to
>> > pull
>> >> >> thru this...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's obvious she's not feeling well, but she's
going to be back to
> her
>> >> >> normal wiggly self soon, I just know it!!! God,
I am just soooooo
>> >> >> relieved - even though I know she's not out of
the woods yet
>> >> >> because
>> > the
>> >> >> doc said the poison could still be effecting
her... but, all signs
>> >> >> show
>> >> >> that she's going to improve, so that is what i'm
going to believe
>> >> >> in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Her recovery is going to be quite long and
extensive, but at this
>> > point,
>> >> >> I'm just thrilled to be able to speak of
'recovery!' Please let
>> > everyone
>> >> >> know that my big chocolate moose is really doing well!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will keep you posted as the day goes by on her
condition and any
>> >> >> further news!!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you for all your thoughts and concern, I
have to believe that
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> the support she has thru friends and prayer is a
big factor in all
>> >> >> this!!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> T
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Glenn M.
>> >> >> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:429f411a{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>>I really hope they have that dog isolated.....
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> - Bob Comer
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Glenn Meadows"
 wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:429f3db9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>>> Don't know, just got this update from her:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>>> I just spoke with the vet...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> my poor spencer. her condition is
stabilized for now, but... that
>> > isn't
>> >> >>>> necessarily a good thing considering
they can't stop her
>> >> >>>> bleeding.
>> > they
>> >> >>>> can't get her blood to clot. my vet is
talking to the vet that
>> >> >>>> worked
>> >> >>>> on stormy and both are more confused
than ever - they have never
>> >> >>>> seen
>> >> >>>> anything like this - it's almost like an
ebola virus or
>> >> >>>> something.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I don't think i have long with her, so i
will have to head to the
>> >> >>>> vet
>> >> >>>> soon again. I am just sick... so
incredibly sick. those sweet
> little
>> >> >>>> girls didn't deserve this!!!!!!!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hopefully, they'll do some serious
invsetigation on this to find
> the
>> >> >>>> cause...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Asian Bird Flu?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Glenn M.
>> >> >>>> "Mike N."
 wrote in message
>> >> >>>> news:ktbu91p15p10t7bkqg0vc9f8677l9f84pn{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >>>>> Assuming it's not an unusual virus
or bacteria, the next thing
> that
>> >> >>>>> comes
>> >> >>>>> to mind is accidental ingestion of
rat poison/warfarin/extreme
>> >> >>>>> blood
>> >> >>>>> thinner.   If they ate the same dog
food, could the dog food be
>> >> >>>>> contaminated?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>
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