Lee wrote:
>>> but they work much worse than
>>> men but demanding the same money for substandard work.
>>
>>
>> No dear. Women are doing the same jobs as men and at the same
>> quality but get paid less for doing them. As we are doing the same
>> job at the same
>
>> quality then we should get paid the same. It's only fair, dear.
>
> Women get paid the same amount, or 5% more, than men to do the same
> job, with the same hours, in the same conditions, with the same
> qualifications and education.
Not here they don't, dear.
>
> It is a fiction, a total lie from Feminists, that women get paid less
> than men.
No it isn't, dear.
>
> It simply isn't true.
>
> Let's start with an anecdote:
>
> I have worked as an HR/Bookkeeper temp.  What that means is that I
> post payroll, and have access to all HR files.  Men and women with
> the same educations and positions get paid the same, to the nickle.
> Jr partners get paid the same regardless of gender.  I have seen no
> evidence of gender bias in pay.
That's the way it should be dear. Everyone should be paid the same
regardless of gender.
>
> If there were widespread income disparity, it would be a simple matter
> to email the payroll file, minus names and SSN's, and adding gender,
> as an Excel document and send it to NOW.  This would take 10 seconds.
> Take into account that 90% of HR and Bookkeepping personnel are
> female, and it flies in the face of reason that women get paid less.
> If that were the case, women would know and blow the whistle, or
> companies would hire only women to save money.
It's nice that at least some companies do treat both sexes as equal when it
comes to salary, dear.
>
> Let's continue with quotes from William Farrell's book "'Why men earn
> more":
>
> "The great news is that there are 90 fields that pay women more than
> men and there are 39 fields that pay 5 percent more than men."
>
> "Among the top paying professions for women, is a sales engineer. A
> female sales engineer is paid 43 percent more than a male engineer."
>
> "One of the most startling statistics in Farrell's book is that
> unmarried women end up earning more money than unmarried men. Farrell
> explains that unmarried men end up taking more fulfilling jobs because
> they lack the responsibility of having a family or being a caretaker.
> While women take on work as a part of their identity, focusing on how
> they can earn enough money to support themselves. When they do that,
> they are more willing to relocate and spend longer hours at work."
I can't address his last point, dear as I am a married woman and have been
forever :) but does he bring to light how many fields pay men more than
women, and can he prove any of this?
>
> What you are quoting, when you claim women earn less than men, is the
> Census' gross income figures, divided by the number of women, or men.
>
I wasn't quoting dear, nor did I get my figures from the census. Only from
actual experiences and seeing other people's earnings from both sexes, same
job, same company etc.
> This does not take into account the choices women make in careers,
> whether they take off 5 years to rear children, whether they work part
> time, or whether they are a SAHM.
>
I took more than that to raise my child dear. :)
> It is, simply put, an errant conclusion based upon the incorrect data
> set.
It's not errant, dear and the data I had was quite correct but looking at
the bigger picture by adding your data makes the picture less black and
white.

Aggy.




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