On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:01:57 -0800, Mark Borgerson
 wrote:

>In article , 
>grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:21:01 -0800, Mark Borgerson
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> >In article , 
>> >grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
>> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:54:03 -0500, "Deborah Terreson"
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >In article
 , Grizzlie 
>> >> >Antagonist   wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 00:26:50 -0500,
"Deborah Terreson"
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I mentioned that Canseco is going to go
testify to a house committee and Bob
>> >> >>>just came in and says he has an idea... That
every time Barry Bonds goes up
>> >> >>>to bat, the pitchers should walk him until he
comes clean!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, tell Bob that Bonds would hardly notice
the difference.  And
>> >> >> then ask him, suppose Bonds "came
clean".  Would the pitchers then
>> >> >> agree to STOP walking him?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On the other hand, what if Bonds came up in the
bottom of the ninth
>> >> >> inning with the score tied and the bases loaded?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Walking him intentionally under those
circumstances would probably be
>> >> >> carrying the principle of forcing him to
"come clean" just a little
>> >> >> too far - wouldn't it?
>> >> >
>> >> >*LOL* (your reply actually got him out of bed!! Good
one, G.A, you can get
>> >> >him to rise, while I cannot.. )
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Ha, ha.  What a choice of word.
>> >> 
>> >> I certainly hope that I can't get Bob to rise.  I
wouldn't want to be
>> >> near him under those circumstances.
>> >> 
>> >> If you can't get him to rise, maybe the two of you should seek
>> >> counseling.  I'd certainly never gathered in anything you'd written
>> >> before this that you had the slightest difficulty in getting Bob to
>> >> rise - heh heh heh.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm just kidding, of course.  But what a choice of word!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > Bob says well DuH! They'd of course use
>> >> >common sense in a game!!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Ah, but he didn't say so.  Or at least, that wasn't what you
>> >> communicated to me.
>> >> 
>> >> The original suggestion was that the pitchers walk Bonds
"every time"
>> >> until he "comes clean".
>> >> 
>> >> Common sense wasn't included in the original suggestion.
>> >> 
>> >
>> >Aha,  So you can apply common sense.  Why, the above sounds just like
>> >my response to your statements on women's athletics!   ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, you're confusing common sense with sophistry.
>
>So, which were you employing when you said women's sports
>are a breeding ground for lesbians?
>
>> 
>> 
>> >> >>>I think he's
>> >> >>>getting disgusted, he just huffed out that
he's seen Brooks Robinson, Pete
>> >> >>>Rose and Hank Aaron and he doesn't need this shit!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can't find that story, but he is always
getting disgusted.
>> >> >> Personally, I think that he should give the
press his middle finger.
>> >> >> He never cared before what they wrote about him.
 He never cared
>> >> >> whether the fans booed or cheered.  Why should
he give a shit now?
>> >> >
>> >> >Well, he doesn't particularly seem to give a shit
about his team either.
>> >> >(Deb aside: I did not know this - is he really not a
team player?)
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I don't think it's true.  It's largely an individual game
anyway - a
>> >> series of individual performances, though obviously there's SOME
>> >> teamwork involved, as anyone who has watched a perfectly executed
>> >> double-play knows.  
>> >> 
>> >> But the players obviously don't work together in the same way that
>> >> football and basketball teams work together.
>> >
>> >So baseball is more like women's gymnastics than it is like football!
>> >(Ducking for cover).   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No.  Baseball is a team sport which still requires individual
>> contribution, and women's gymnastics is entirely individualistic.
>> 
>
>Here we have "Baseball is a team sport which still requires individual
> contribution"
>
>Two paragraphs away from "It's largely an individual game anyway"


Because it requires a lot of individual contribution.


>Can you blame me for being a bit confused?   


Yes.  You're not confused anyway.  You're parsing.


> (OK,  fire away--
>the target is in sight!  ;-)  _



You're always making yourself a target, and it's boring.  You're like
a starving man gobbling up laxatives.



 
>> >Does that mean that softball is a better
>> >sport for women than basketball?  ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, because women's softball like all other women's team sports and
>> some individual ones are breeding grounds for lesbianism and feminism.
>> 
>
>I guess you just know more about lesbianism and feminism that me.  


Why?  You're a male lesbian and a feminist yourself.


>I'd
>be interested in how you acquired all that expertise.  Was it acquired
>in the course of your professional, or your personal life?


For starters...

http://www.isteve.com/lesvsgay.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23160

 
 
>> >> At least, his teammates seem to readily come to his
defense every time
>> >> he stirs up controversy.
>> >> 
>> >> Some people say that he's not a team player because he
doesn't hustle.
>> >> But he explains that he is conserving his energies; at
his age and in
>> >> his physical condition, he would burn out much more quickly if he
>> >> played the game like Pete Rose (Charlie Hustle) played it.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >> Actually, as long as the investigation of BALCO
is still in the hands
>> >> >> of a grand jury, his attorney is undoubtedly
telling him not to talk
>> >> >> publicly about it, and he should probably be
following his attorney's
>> >> >> advice.
>> >> >
>> >> >Okay.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Babe Ruth did it on bourbon and hot dogs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As did Mickey Mantle.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Paul Waner - "Big Poison" to his peers
(his little brother Lloyd was
>> >> >> "Little Poison") - was another Hall of
Famer who enjoyed looking at
>> >> >> the wine when it was red - though he was more of
a singles-and-doubles
>> >> >> hitter than a home run hitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But most of his 3152 hits (3000 is pretty much
of an automatic Hall of
>> >> >> Fame qualifier) were achieved with a warm happy
glow inside of him.
>> >> >
>> >> >Along with Doc Ellis throwing a perfect game on
acid!! (When did this
>> >> >happen??)
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> In the 1970's, I think.
>> >> 
>> >> It wasn't a perfect game either; it was a no-hitter,
which means that
>> >> SOMEONE reached base, just not on a base hit.  A perfect game means
>> >> that no one reaches base in any manner whatsoever.
>> >> 
>> >> It's still a remarkable story.  I think that Ellis has said that he
>> >> remembers nothing about that game.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >> The worst season of his big league career was
apparently the one that
>> >> >> he spent on the wagon.  He explained his success
as a hitter thusly:
>> >> >> I used to see three baseballs, and I hit the middle one.
>> >> >
>> >> >*LOL!* Let's go back to the beer and whiskey league!
Get a sip when you get
>> >> >to third!!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Some of us would remain teetotalers then, if that was what was
>> >> necessary to get a sip :).
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >> I recently saw an old movie, "Witness for
the Prosecution", in which
>> >> >> Charles Laughton played a brilliant English
barrister defending a
>> >> >> client charged with murder.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> His character frequently sipped brandy stored in
his cane while in
>> >> >> court, and the more drunk he got, the better his
command of the law
>> >> >> and of the facts of his case and the more
brilliant and witty his
>> >> >> legal arguments became.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wish that I knew where to find brandy like that.
>> >> >
>> >> >I suppose you could read alot of Oscar Wilde and drink?
>> >> >
>> >> >Deb.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Or more likely, recast myself as a fictitious character.
>> >> 
>> >> Only on the silver screen does one find witty debonair drunkards.
>> >> 
>> >
>> >I noted that when I spent a bit of time as a part-time bartender.
>> >When I wasn't working, and could have a few drinks myself, the
>> >same people seemed much more entertaining.  Alas, that can end
>> >in a downward spiral,  so I usually ended up  drinking diet
>> >cola---which my co-workers would provide at no cost.
>> >
>> >
>> >Mark Borgerson
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sorry that they didn't coat it with strychnine.
>> 
>Perhaps they were less inventive than you and couldn't figure
>out how to coat a diet pepsi with a toxic substance.  Say, 
>how DO you  coat a liquid?    ;-)


If I'm in the wrong company, I am strongly tempted to coat it with
strychnine.

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