In article , 
grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:21:01 -0800, Mark Borgerson
>  wrote:
> 
> >In article , 
> >grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:54:03 -0500, "Deborah Terreson"
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article
 , Grizzlie 
> >> >Antagonist   wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 00:26:50 -0500, "Deborah
Terreson"
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I mentioned that Canseco is going to go testify
to a house committee and Bob
> >> >>>just came in and says he has an idea... That
every time Barry Bonds goes up
> >> >>>to bat, the pitchers should walk him until he comes clean!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, tell Bob that Bonds would hardly notice the
difference.  And
> >> >> then ask him, suppose Bonds "came clean". 
Would the pitchers then
> >> >> agree to STOP walking him?
> >> >>
> >> >> On the other hand, what if Bonds came up in the
bottom of the ninth
> >> >> inning with the score tied and the bases loaded?
> >> >>
> >> >> Walking him intentionally under those circumstances
would probably be
> >> >> carrying the principle of forcing him to "come
clean" just a little
> >> >> too far - wouldn't it?
> >> >
> >> >*LOL* (your reply actually got him out of bed!! Good one,
G.A, you can get
> >> >him to rise, while I cannot.. )
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Ha, ha.  What a choice of word.
> >> 
> >> I certainly hope that I can't get Bob to rise.  I wouldn't want to be
> >> near him under those circumstances.
> >> 
> >> If you can't get him to rise, maybe the two of you should seek
> >> counseling.  I'd certainly never gathered in anything you'd written
> >> before this that you had the slightest difficulty in getting Bob to
> >> rise - heh heh heh.
> >> 
> >> I'm just kidding, of course.  But what a choice of word!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Bob says well DuH! They'd of course use
> >> >common sense in a game!!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Ah, but he didn't say so.  Or at least, that wasn't what you
> >> communicated to me.
> >> 
> >> The original suggestion was that the pitchers walk Bonds
"every time"
> >> until he "comes clean".
> >> 
> >> Common sense wasn't included in the original suggestion.
> >> 
> >
> >Aha,  So you can apply common sense.  Why, the above sounds just like
> >my response to your statements on women's athletics!   ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No, you're confusing common sense with sophistry.

So, which were you employing when you said women's sports
are a breeding ground for lesbians?

> 
> 
> >> >>>I think he's
> >> >>>getting disgusted, he just huffed out that he's
seen Brooks Robinson, Pete
> >> >>>Rose and Hank Aaron and he doesn't need this shit!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't find that story, but he is always getting disgusted.
> >> >> Personally, I think that he should give the press
his middle finger.
> >> >> He never cared before what they wrote about him.  He
never cared
> >> >> whether the fans booed or cheered.  Why should he
give a shit now?
> >> >
> >> >Well, he doesn't particularly seem to give a shit about
his team either.
> >> >(Deb aside: I did not know this - is he really not a team player?)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I don't think it's true.  It's largely an individual game anyway - a
> >> series of individual performances, though obviously there's SOME
> >> teamwork involved, as anyone who has watched a perfectly executed
> >> double-play knows.  
> >> 
> >> But the players obviously don't work together in the same way that
> >> football and basketball teams work together.
> >
> >So baseball is more like women's gymnastics than it is like football!
> >(Ducking for cover).   
> 
> 
> 
> No.  Baseball is a team sport which still requires individual
> contribution, and women's gymnastics is entirely individualistic.
> 

Here we have "Baseball is a team sport which still requires individual
 contribution"

Two paragraphs away from "It's largely an individual game anyway"

Can you blame me for being a bit confused?    (OK,  fire away--
the target is in sight!  ;-)  _
> 
> 
> >Does that mean that softball is a better
> >sport for women than basketball?  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> No, because women's softball like all other women's team sports and
> some individual ones are breeding grounds for lesbianism and feminism.
> 

I guess you just know more about lesbianism and feminism that me.  I'd
be interested in how you acquired all that expertise.  Was it acquired
in the course of your professional, or your personal life?
> 
> 
> >> At least, his teammates seem to readily come to his defense every time
> >> he stirs up controversy.
> >> 
> >> Some people say that he's not a team player because he doesn't hustle.
> >> But he explains that he is conserving his energies; at his age and in
> >> his physical condition, he would burn out much more quickly if he
> >> played the game like Pete Rose (Charlie Hustle) played it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >> Actually, as long as the investigation of BALCO is
still in the hands
> >> >> of a grand jury, his attorney is undoubtedly telling
him not to talk
> >> >> publicly about it, and he should probably be
following his attorney's
> >> >> advice.
> >> >
> >> >Okay.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Babe Ruth did it on bourbon and hot dogs.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> As did Mickey Mantle.
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul Waner - "Big Poison" to his peers
(his little brother Lloyd was
> >> >> "Little Poison") - was another Hall of
Famer who enjoyed looking at
> >> >> the wine when it was red - though he was more of a
singles-and-doubles
> >> >> hitter than a home run hitter.
> >> >>
> >> >> But most of his 3152 hits (3000 is pretty much of an
automatic Hall of
> >> >> Fame qualifier) were achieved with a warm happy glow
inside of him.
> >> >
> >> >Along with Doc Ellis throwing a perfect game on acid!!
(When did this
> >> >happen??)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In the 1970's, I think.
> >> 
> >> It wasn't a perfect game either; it was a no-hitter, which means that
> >> SOMEONE reached base, just not on a base hit.  A perfect game means
> >> that no one reaches base in any manner whatsoever.
> >> 
> >> It's still a remarkable story.  I think that Ellis has said that he
> >> remembers nothing about that game.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >> The worst season of his big league career was
apparently the one that
> >> >> he spent on the wagon.  He explained his success as
a hitter thusly:
> >> >> I used to see three baseballs, and I hit the middle one.
> >> >
> >> >*LOL!* Let's go back to the beer and whiskey league! Get
a sip when you get
> >> >to third!!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Some of us would remain teetotalers then, if that was what was
> >> necessary to get a sip :).
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >> I recently saw an old movie, "Witness for the
Prosecution", in which
> >> >> Charles Laughton played a brilliant English
barrister defending a
> >> >> client charged with murder.
> >> >>
> >> >> His character frequently sipped brandy stored in his
cane while in
> >> >> court, and the more drunk he got, the better his
command of the law
> >> >> and of the facts of his case and the more brilliant
and witty his
> >> >> legal arguments became.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wish that I knew where to find brandy like that.
> >> >
> >> >I suppose you could read alot of Oscar Wilde and drink?
> >> >
> >> >Deb.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Or more likely, recast myself as a fictitious character.
> >> 
> >> Only on the silver screen does one find witty debonair drunkards.
> >> 
> >
> >I noted that when I spent a bit of time as a part-time bartender.
> >When I wasn't working, and could have a few drinks myself, the
> >same people seemed much more entertaining.  Alas, that can end
> >in a downward spiral,  so I usually ended up  drinking diet
> >cola---which my co-workers would provide at no cost.
> >
> >
> >Mark Borgerson
> 
> 
> I'm sorry that they didn't coat it with strychnine.
> 
Perhaps they were less inventive than you and couldn't figure
out how to coat a diet pepsi with a toxic substance.  Say, 
how DO you  coat a liquid?    ;-)


Mark Borgerson



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