"Hyerdahl"  wrote in message
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>
> Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> > In article ,
> >  "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
> >
> > > Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> > >
> > > (EDIT)
> > >
> > > > She, nor women even, can't "grant" them the
"choice" to
> > > > date wealthy, "non-sexist" men to grant all
their dreams.
> > >
> > > Mark, no one ever promised your alleged wife a rose garden;
> >
> > It's funny you should put it that way.  We just bought
> > potted tulips. :-)
>
> Ah, tulips are lovely to look at, but they lose their petals quickly
> and don't smell that great.  However, it's nice to fix up ones place as
> it pleases them.  I have a sweet smelling daphny bush (sp) outside my
> patio door, and have planted sweet smelling herbs on the hill outside
> my door.  Whenever the sun hits or after a rain, it smells glorious.
>
> she is paying the price for her citizenship and freedom and it would be
> very> difficult for me to believe that you, a man who bought her from
> the net, could be the "man of her dreams".
> >
> > One of the wonderful things about our relationship is we
> > both made compromises and still love each other.
> >
> I don't think lasting love comes from so brief a relationship OR,
> necessarily from making compromises, but rather, from each giving 100%
> to the relationship and to each other, and from growing together.
>
> > Do you think all men who meet their spouse through the
> > internet "buy" their wives?
>
> No.  I think that men who go to foreign countries for the purpose of
> finding poverty stricken submissive brides...as buying their wives.
> Women who sign up for Russian dating services are not secure in their
> own right, and thus, easily bought, but not so easily loving of a
> slavemaster.

Those girls are not just looking for non Russian husbands  lol Those are
personal ads as you have in the US. Oh, and they are not poverty stricken or
submissive. If you look at their educational credentials and jobs you will
see that they are quite well off. Jealous catwoman? Bitter hag.



>
>  Indeed, 20 years ago,> few women used the personal ads.  It's a sign
> of desperation for career women that nearly all of them MUST put
> themselves "up for sale" by going
> > online because men no longer "ask them out" in
> > the workplace.
>
> Nonsense!  Both women and men use dating services, and frequently it's
> just because their too busy otherwise...with their careers, school,
> etc.  But then...you already knew that.
>
> >
> For one thing, you've told us you're not rich, and by your posts, it's
> obvious you're a self-avowed sexist.
> >
> > So what about the latter?
> >
> > What's wrong with a "sexist" holding open his wife's door
> > and coat and treating her as most women dream of being
> > treated?
> >
> I don't see opening a door for someone as being sexist; perhaps that's
> why we don't usually see eye to eye;  we have different views of what
> comprises sexism.   And while your alleged "wife" may not be offended
> by the opened door, I suppose that depends on what she finds...on the
> other side. :-)
> (edit)
> >
>
> > > > She can say women can do as they see fit but REALITY says
> > > > otherwise.  I choose to disempower her.
> > >
> > > You can't really "disempower" the choices women have, tho.
> >
> > That's what's so neat: I am just making observations
> > about life.  I don't have to be all that powerful individually
> > to simply state obvious truths.
>
> So, are you saying that your observations are reality?  :-)  I don't
> think so.  I mean you can attempt to disempower your Irina but, in the
> end, you can only make vain threats.
> >
> > > I mean even> > women who leave their abusive (but rich) husbands
> >
> > Define "abusive?"
> >
> How is that important?  I suppose each leaving woman would have to
> determine her own level of abuse, Mark.  Some women might find abuse in
> a man who simply attempts to control her, while others might leave an
> abusive man who tried to kill her.  Abuse is highly subjective and in
> the eye of the beholder.
>
> > Certainly, if the wealthy men are beating them up ala
> > "Sleeping with the enemy", you have a point.  But
> > in reality, if the guy is off playing golf at various
> > locations on his learjet, he's probably not going to
> > bother being all that abusive really.
>
> Again, abusiveness or neglect are both in the eye of the beholder.
>
> >
> to live a lifestyle that is clearly not a wealthy one shows us that
> women DO have power over their own lives.
> >
> > Yeah, when that happens.  (sneer :-)
> >
> Well, wasn't there a stat out there that women who divorce are much
> more poverty stricken than if they had remained married?  Apparently
> there are such women.
> (edit)
> >
> >
>




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