In article , 
grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:54:03 -0500, "Deborah Terreson"
>  wrote:
> 
> >In article  , Grizzlie 
> >Antagonist   wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 00:26:50 -0500, "Deborah Terreson"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>I mentioned that Canseco is going to go testify to a house
committee and Bob
> >>>just came in and says he has an idea... That every time
Barry Bonds goes up
> >>>to bat, the pitchers should walk him until he comes clean!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, tell Bob that Bonds would hardly notice the difference.  And
> >> then ask him, suppose Bonds "came clean".  Would
the pitchers then
> >> agree to STOP walking him?
> >>
> >> On the other hand, what if Bonds came up in the bottom of the ninth
> >> inning with the score tied and the bases loaded?
> >>
> >> Walking him intentionally under those circumstances would probably be
> >> carrying the principle of forcing him to "come
clean" just a little
> >> too far - wouldn't it?
> >
> >*LOL* (your reply actually got him out of bed!! Good one, G.A, you can get
> >him to rise, while I cannot.. )
> 
> 
> Ha, ha.  What a choice of word.
> 
> I certainly hope that I can't get Bob to rise.  I wouldn't want to be
> near him under those circumstances.
> 
> If you can't get him to rise, maybe the two of you should seek
> counseling.  I'd certainly never gathered in anything you'd written
> before this that you had the slightest difficulty in getting Bob to
> rise - heh heh heh.
> 
> I'm just kidding, of course.  But what a choice of word!
> 
> 
> > Bob says well DuH! They'd of course use
> >common sense in a game!!
> 
> 
> Ah, but he didn't say so.  Or at least, that wasn't what you
> communicated to me.
> 
> The original suggestion was that the pitchers walk Bonds "every time"
> until he "comes clean".
> 
> Common sense wasn't included in the original suggestion.
> 

Aha,  So you can apply common sense.  Why, the above sounds just like
my response to your statements on women's athletics!   ;-)
> 
> >>>I think he's
> >>>getting disgusted, he just huffed out that he's seen
Brooks Robinson, Pete
> >>>Rose and Hank Aaron and he doesn't need this shit!!
> >>
> >>
> >> I can't find that story, but he is always getting disgusted.
> >> Personally, I think that he should give the press his middle finger.
> >> He never cared before what they wrote about him.  He never cared
> >> whether the fans booed or cheered.  Why should he give a shit now?
> >
> >Well, he doesn't particularly seem to give a shit about his team either.
> >(Deb aside: I did not know this - is he really not a team player?)
> 
> 
> I don't think it's true.  It's largely an individual game anyway - a
> series of individual performances, though obviously there's SOME
> teamwork involved, as anyone who has watched a perfectly executed
> double-play knows.  
> 
> But the players obviously don't work together in the same way that
> football and basketball teams work together.

So baseball is more like women's gymnastics than it is like football!
(Ducking for cover).   Does that mean that softball is a better
sport for women than basketball?  ;-)
> 
> At least, his teammates seem to readily come to his defense every time
> he stirs up controversy.
> 
> Some people say that he's not a team player because he doesn't hustle.
> But he explains that he is conserving his energies; at his age and in
> his physical condition, he would burn out much more quickly if he
> played the game like Pete Rose (Charlie Hustle) played it.
> 
> 
> 
> >> Actually, as long as the investigation of BALCO is still in the hands
> >> of a grand jury, his attorney is undoubtedly telling him not to talk
> >> publicly about it, and he should probably be following his attorney's
> >> advice.
> >
> >Okay.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Babe Ruth did it on bourbon and hot dogs.
> >>
> >>
> >> As did Mickey Mantle.
> >>
> >> Paul Waner - "Big Poison" to his peers (his little
brother Lloyd was
> >> "Little Poison") - was another Hall of Famer who
enjoyed looking at
> >> the wine when it was red - though he was more of a singles-and-doubles
> >> hitter than a home run hitter.
> >>
> >> But most of his 3152 hits (3000 is pretty much of an automatic Hall of
> >> Fame qualifier) were achieved with a warm happy glow inside of him.
> >
> >Along with Doc Ellis throwing a perfect game on acid!! (When did this
> >happen??)
> 
> 
> In the 1970's, I think.
> 
> It wasn't a perfect game either; it was a no-hitter, which means that
> SOMEONE reached base, just not on a base hit.  A perfect game means
> that no one reaches base in any manner whatsoever.
> 
> It's still a remarkable story.  I think that Ellis has said that he
> remembers nothing about that game.
> 
> 
> >> The worst season of his big league career was apparently the one that
> >> he spent on the wagon.  He explained his success as a hitter thusly:
> >> I used to see three baseballs, and I hit the middle one.
> >
> >*LOL!* Let's go back to the beer and whiskey league! Get a sip when you get
> >to third!!
> 
> 
> Some of us would remain teetotalers then, if that was what was
> necessary to get a sip :).
> 
> 
> 
> >> I recently saw an old movie, "Witness for the
Prosecution", in which
> >> Charles Laughton played a brilliant English barrister defending a
> >> client charged with murder.
> >>
> >> His character frequently sipped brandy stored in his cane while in
> >> court, and the more drunk he got, the better his command of the law
> >> and of the facts of his case and the more brilliant and witty his
> >> legal arguments became.
> >>
> >> I wish that I knew where to find brandy like that.
> >
> >I suppose you could read alot of Oscar Wilde and drink?
> >
> >Deb.
> 
> 
> Or more likely, recast myself as a fictitious character.
> 
> Only on the silver screen does one find witty debonair drunkards.
> 

I noted that when I spent a bit of time as a part-time bartender.
When I wasn't working, and could have a few drinks myself, the
same people seemed much more entertaining.  Alas, that can end
in a downward spiral,  so I usually ended up  drinking diet
cola---which my co-workers would provide at no cost.


Mark Borgerson


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