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>There might be a Niche market in "Real" objects made by hand.  Sisko's
Restaraunt, for example.

The food might be prepared by hand, but is it all authentically grown too? =
 That's
possible, but in a pinch, I could imagine that they would dip into the repl= icated
stuff for at least the raw materials.

>If someone changes clothes every hour that might start getting excessive.
 Again, we see people on Starships rarely if ever change their clothes.=20
it might be just a matter of purposefully limiting the amount of storage
pace they take up with clothes "in play"

Of course, most of the time we see Starfleet officers, they're in uniform,
= and since
the uniform is comfortable enough (its designed that way, even if they look=
 un-
comfortable on the screen--then again, the Voyager jumpsuit uniforms seem t= o
be comfortable-looking too), they tend to wear it while off-duty but on the=
 ship
as well.  Although a person might not change clothes every hour, they do no= t have
to wear the same thing twice either.  In my stories, when characters go off=
-ship
for shore leave or something similar, they tend to wear civilian clothes.  = Although
I have never gone into much detail in this, I can simply explain away that = each
time somebody goes off ship and their clothing is different, it is because
= it can be.

>Actually in jay-trek  that would be energy-exctravagant,  but then they
aren't in the same position energy wise as in Steve-Trek.  Also in Jay Trek
there is siome energy loss.  No engineering system built by mortals is
perfectly efficientm so some energy will always be lost,  even if only in
making some pretty sparkly lights.

Of course there is energy lost.  Ultimately, in a replicator system, that
i= s what is used
up.  There is a net loss in energy in going from base matter to replicated
= item back
to base matter again.  Of course, technologically-advanced cleaning systems=
 likely will
consume less energy than replication.

>That same crewman in Jay-Trek would probably keep a uniform hung up
against an emergency,  but when he reaches his quarters and udresses for
bed,  he throws his uniform and clothing into a cleaner slot or cleaner
device, (Or maybe if he's tired he throws them on the floor and does this
in the morning) and within a few seconds, viola, clean uniform ready for
another day.

I believe that there are scenes in "Athena" stories where it is
mentioned t= hat a crewmember
replicates a new uniform at the start of the shift.  So far, it has not
bec= ome important in
any story whether a uniform is simply cleaned in a high-tech machine or a n= ew one
replicated.  All that has been established is that a crewmember is expected=
 to start his
shift in a clean, intact uniform and he is responsible for making sure that=
 his uniform, and
other clothing assigned to him (either as real clothing or replicator
patte= rns) is maintained.
In terms of other clothing, I could imagine that warm-weather or
cold-weath= er gear, and
perhaps even an emergency environmental suit in his quarters (in case some
= or all of the ship
loses life support) would all be stored, ready to go, but replicated
replac= ements are available
if necessary.

>You go right ahead.  I hope my assumptions don't ruin my stories for you.

It's nice to know the assumptions when I read the stories, since I would
ha= te to read a scene
finding it hard to swallow, but then realizing that Jay-Trek assumptions
mi= ght be different, or even
opposite, of the Steve-Trek assumptions (the scanability of El Aurians
come= s to mind here).

Steve
The Universe Unbounded.

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>There might be a Niche market in "Real"
objects made by hand. 
Sisko'sRestaraunt, for example.
 
The food might be prepared by
hand, but is it all
authentically grown too?  That's
possible, but in a pinch, I could
imagine that
they
would dip into the replicated
stuff for at least the raw
materials.
 
>If someone changes clothes every hour that might start getting
excessive. Again, we see people on Starships rarely if
ever change their clothes. it might be just a matter of
purposefully limiting the amount
of storagepace they take up with clothes "in
play"
Of course, most of the time we see Starfleet
officers, they're in uniform, and since
the uniform is comfortable enough
(its designed
that way, even if they look un-
comfortable on the screen--then
again, the Voyager
jumpsuit uniforms seem to
be comfortable-looking too), they
tend to wear it
while off-duty but on the ship
as well.  Although a
person might not change
clothes every hour, they do not have
to wear the same thing twice
either.  In my
stories, when characters go off-ship
for shore leave or something
similar, they tend to
wear civilian clothes.  Although
I have never gone into much detail
in this, I can
simply explain away that each
time somebody goes off ship and
their clothing is
different, it is because it can be.
 
>Actually in jay-trek  that would be
energy-exctravagant, 
but
then theyaren't in the same position energy wise as in
Steve-Trek.  Also in JayTrek there is siome energy
loss.  No engineering system built by mortalsis
perfectly efficientm so some energy will always be lost,  even if
onlyin making some pretty sparkly lights.
 
Of course there is energy
lost.  Ultimately,
in a replicator system, that is what is used
up.  There is a net loss
in energy in going
from base matter to replicated item back
to base matter again.  Of course,
technologically-advanced cleaning systems likely will
consume less energy than
replication.>That same crewman in
Jay-Trek would probably keep
a uniform hung upagainst an emergency,  but when he
reaches his quarters and udresses forbed,  he throws his
uniform and clothing into a cleaner slot or cleanerdevice, (Or
maybe if he's tired he throws them on the floor and does thisin
the morning) and within a few seconds, viola, clean uniform ready
foranother day.
I believe that there are scenes in
"Athena"
stories
where it is mentioned that a crewmember
replicates a new uniform at the start of the
shift.  So far, it has not become important in
any story whether a uniform is
simply cleaned in a
high-tech machine or a new one
replicated.  All that has
been established is
that a crewmember is expected to start his
shift in a clean, intact uniform and he is
responsible for making sure that his uniform, and
other clothing assigned to him
(either as real
clothing or replicator patterns) is maintained.
In terms of other clothing, I
could imagine that
warm-weather or cold-weather gear, and
perhaps even an emergency
environmental suit in
his
quarters (in case some or all of the ship
loses life support) would all be
stored, ready to
go, but replicated replacements are available
if necessary.
 
>You go right ahead.  I hope my assumptions
don't ruin my stories
for you.
It's nice to know the assumptions
when I read the
stories, since I would hate to read a scene
finding it hard to swallow, but
then realizing
that
Jay-Trek assumptions might be different, or even
opposite, of the Steve-Trek assumptions (the
scanability of El Aurians comes to mind here).
 
Steve
The Universe
Unbounded.
 
Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com;">http://ussathena.iwarp.comhttp://ussathena.iwarp.com">http://ussathena.iwarp.com;
 





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