On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:20:01 -0800, Mark Borgerson
 wrote:

>In article , 
>grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:01:57 -0800, Mark Borgerson
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> >In article , 
>> >grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
>> >> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:21:01 -0800, Mark Borgerson
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >In article , 
>> >> >grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
>> >> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:54:03 -0500,
"Deborah Terreson"
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >In article
 , Grizzlie 
>> >> >> >Antagonist
  wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 00:26:50 -0500,
"Deborah Terreson"
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>I mentioned that Canseco is going to
go testify to a house committee and Bob
>> >> >> >>>just came in and says he has an
idea... That every time Barry Bonds goes up
>> >> >> >>>to bat, the pitchers should walk him
until he comes clean!!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, tell Bob that Bonds would hardly
notice the difference.  And
>> >> >> >> then ask him, suppose Bonds "came
clean".  Would the pitchers then
>> >> >> >> agree to STOP walking him?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On the other hand, what if Bonds came
up in the bottom of the ninth
>> >> >> >> inning with the score tied and the bases loaded?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Walking him intentionally under those
circumstances would probably be
>> >> >> >> carrying the principle of forcing him
to "come clean" just a little
>> >> >> >> too far - wouldn't it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >*LOL* (your reply actually got him out of
bed!! Good one, G.A, you can get
>> >> >> >him to rise, while I cannot.. )
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Ha, ha.  What a choice of word.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I certainly hope that I can't get Bob to rise. 
I wouldn't want to be
>> >> >> near him under those circumstances.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> If you can't get him to rise, maybe the two of
you should seek
>> >> >> counseling.  I'd certainly never gathered in
anything you'd written
>> >> >> before this that you had the slightest
difficulty in getting Bob to
>> >> >> rise - heh heh heh.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I'm just kidding, of course.  But what a choice of word!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Bob says well DuH! They'd of course use
>> >> >> >common sense in a game!!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Ah, but he didn't say so.  Or at least, that
wasn't what you
>> >> >> communicated to me.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The original suggestion was that the pitchers
walk Bonds "every time"
>> >> >> until he "comes clean".
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Common sense wasn't included in the original suggestion.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >Aha,  So you can apply common sense.  Why, the above
sounds just like
>> >> >my response to your statements on women's athletics!   ;-)
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> No, you're confusing common sense with sophistry.
>> >
>> >So, which were you employing when you said women's sports
>> >are a breeding ground for lesbians?
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >> >>>I think he's
>> >> >> >>>getting disgusted, he just huffed
out that he's seen Brooks Robinson, Pete
>> >> >> >>>Rose and Hank Aaron and he doesn't
need this shit!!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I can't find that story, but he is
always getting disgusted.
>> >> >> >> Personally, I think that he should give
the press his middle finger.
>> >> >> >> He never cared before what they wrote
about him.  He never cared
>> >> >> >> whether the fans booed or cheered.  Why
should he give a shit now?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Well, he doesn't particularly seem to give a
shit about his team either.
>> >> >> >(Deb aside: I did not know this - is he
really not a team player?)
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I don't think it's true.  It's largely an
individual game anyway - a
>> >> >> series of individual performances, though
obviously there's SOME
>> >> >> teamwork involved, as anyone who has watched a
perfectly executed
>> >> >> double-play knows.  
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> But the players obviously don't work together in
the same way that
>> >> >> football and basketball teams work together.
>> >> >
>> >> >So baseball is more like women's gymnastics than it
is like football!
>> >> >(Ducking for cover).   
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> No.  Baseball is a team sport which still requires individual
>> >> contribution, and women's gymnastics is entirely individualistic.
>> >> 
>> >
>> >Here we have "Baseball is a team sport which still
requires individual
>> > contribution"
>> >
>> >Two paragraphs away from "It's largely an individual game
anyway"
>> 
>> 
>> Because it requires a lot of individual contribution.
>> 
>> 
>> >Can you blame me for being a bit confused?   
>> 
>> 
>> Yes.  You're not confused anyway.  You're parsing.
>
>So you,  a lawyer, are stating that I'm analyzing your statements?  
>I can only take that as a compliment.



You are not acting in the interests of justice.




>> > (OK,  fire away--
>> >the target is in sight!  ;-)  _
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You're always making yourself a target, and it's boring.  You're like
>> a starving man gobbling up laxatives.
>
>LOL.   At least you can't accuse me of being full of shit, then!


Can't I?


  
>> >> >Does that mean that softball is a better
>> >> >sport for women than basketball?  ;-)
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> No, because women's softball like all other women's team sports and
>> >> some individual ones are breeding grounds for lesbianism
and feminism.
>> >> 
>> >
>> >I guess you just know more about lesbianism and feminism that me.  
>> 
>> 
>> Why?  You're a male lesbian and a feminist yourself.
>
>No Proof Offered. Claim fails.  (Thanks, Andre.)



Oh OK, if you insist, here's the proof that you're a male lesbian and
a feminist:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?enc_author=M78uyBYAAABxcMS0MQROZGYftRj9H-_lfkJl7JH_CShDXo7kQvHpFA



 
>> >I'd
>> >be interested in how you acquired all that expertise.  Was it acquired
>> >in the course of your professional, or your personal life?
>> 
>> 
>> For starters...
>> 
>> http://www.isteve.com/lesvsgay.htm
>Perhaps you can explain the pertinence of examination of the leisure
>habits of gay men and lesbian women to this discussion.
>
>
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23160
>
>Pending a valid statistical analysis,  I will agree that the author
>may know more about the sexual preferences of the WNBA player and
>audience than me.   Do you have any evidence for other sports at 
>the college and professional level?


http://www.insidewomensboxing.com/interviews/trina_ortegon_oct_00.html




  
>> >> >> At least, his teammates seem to readily come to
his defense every time
>> >> >> he stirs up controversy.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Some people say that he's not a team player
because he doesn't hustle.
>> >> >> But he explains that he is conserving his
energies; at his age and in
>> >> >> his physical condition, he would burn out much
more quickly if he
>> >> >> played the game like Pete Rose (Charlie Hustle) played it.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Actually, as long as the investigation
of BALCO is still in the hands
>> >> >> >> of a grand jury, his attorney is
undoubtedly telling him not to talk
>> >> >> >> publicly about it, and he should
probably be following his attorney's
>> >> >> >> advice.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Okay.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>Babe Ruth did it on bourbon and hot dogs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As did Mickey Mantle.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Paul Waner - "Big Poison" to
his peers (his little brother Lloyd was
>> >> >> >> "Little Poison") - was
another Hall of Famer who enjoyed looking at
>> >> >> >> the wine when it was red - though he
was more of a singles-and-doubles
>> >> >> >> hitter than a home run hitter.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> But most of his 3152 hits (3000 is
pretty much of an automatic Hall of
>> >> >> >> Fame qualifier) were achieved with a
warm happy glow inside of him.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Along with Doc Ellis throwing a perfect game
on acid!! (When did this
>> >> >> >happen??)
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> In the 1970's, I think.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It wasn't a perfect game either; it was a
no-hitter, which means that
>> >> >> SOMEONE reached base, just not on a base hit.  A
perfect game means
>> >> >> that no one reaches base in any manner whatsoever.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It's still a remarkable story.  I think that
Ellis has said that he
>> >> >> remembers nothing about that game.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> The worst season of his big league
career was apparently the one that
>> >> >> >> he spent on the wagon.  He explained
his success as a hitter thusly:
>> >> >> >> I used to see three baseballs, and I
hit the middle one.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >*LOL!* Let's go back to the beer and whiskey
league! Get a sip when you get
>> >> >> >to third!!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Some of us would remain teetotalers then, if
that was what was
>> >> >> necessary to get a sip :).
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> I recently saw an old movie,
"Witness for the Prosecution", in which
>> >> >> >> Charles Laughton played a brilliant
English barrister defending a
>> >> >> >> client charged with murder.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> His character frequently sipped brandy
stored in his cane while in
>> >> >> >> court, and the more drunk he got, the
better his command of the law
>> >> >> >> and of the facts of his case and the
more brilliant and witty his
>> >> >> >> legal arguments became.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I wish that I knew where to find brandy
like that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I suppose you could read alot of Oscar Wilde
and drink?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Deb.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Or more likely, recast myself as a fictitious character.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Only on the silver screen does one find witty
debonair drunkards.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >I noted that when I spent a bit of time as a
part-time bartender.
>> >> >When I wasn't working, and could have a few drinks myself, the
>> >> >same people seemed much more entertaining.  Alas, that can end
>> >> >in a downward spiral,  so I usually ended up  drinking diet
>> >> >cola---which my co-workers would provide at no cost.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Mark Borgerson
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I'm sorry that they didn't coat it with strychnine.
>> >> 
>> >Perhaps they were less inventive than you and couldn't figure
>> >out how to coat a diet pepsi with a toxic substance.  Say, 
>> >how DO you  coat a liquid?    ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> If I'm in the wrong company, I am strongly tempted to coat it with
>> strychnine.
>
>So,  how do you coat the wrong company with strychnine?  Sounds even
>more difficult than coating Diet Pepsi.   ;-)
>(Ooops, that would be parsing again, right?)




>Mark Borgerson
>
>
>


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