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from: `john Royer` john.Royer2
date: 2005-03-06 20:07:00
subject: Re: Looking for `reasoned discourse`

>>> Doug Laidlaw (laidlaws{at}myaccess.com.au) writes:
>>>> John Royer says that this newsgroup is unwilling to enter into
>>>> "reasoned
>>>> discourse" because no one agrees with his
conclusions.  I challenge him
>>>> to set out his idea of "reasoned discourse" and
his reasoned grounds
>>>> for
>>>> holding his views.  I promise him that whether I agree with his
>>>> conclusions or not, I will not use insults or denigration
to counter a
>>>> well thought-out argument.
>>>> "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend
with my life your
>>>> right to say it."   but that having been said, I
don't have to agree
>>>> afterward, any more than to start with.
>>>>
>>>> Well, John?

As I said this is why reasoned discourse is not possible with you people.
Nobody cared to discuss THIS!

Ever heard of the Low Ball Technique, or the Foot in the Door technique?

One could argue that the satements by the radical feminists are just that,
radical statements. That they really have no value to a civilized society.

Hitler did much the same to the German population in getting them to accept
what was done to the Jewish people. Make outrageous statements, then make a
statement not quite so outrageous maybe something like"Boy's are too
aggressive in school". Something that many can buy into. That's how it
starts.

Look at our culture today" boys bad, girls good, fathers bad, mothers good,
the court system, women routinely recieving lesser sentences for the same
crimes, or even heinous crimes being excused with " It's her husbands
fault"
as was the Andrea Yates case. Men routinely hit by women in the media, we
consider it funny.

And YOU ACCEPT IT!

Could anyone within the German population have taken the statements made by
Hitlers progaganda machine and stood up? Especially since the political
climate made it unwise to do so? Well take a look at the political
correctness machine in place today. Who of any consequence would dare to
stand up to the feminist propaganda machine in place today? Those that have
tried are crushed in the media and well intentioned, reasonable people don't
question it.


Instead the thinkers in the group go off on a tangent and intelligent
discourse is impossible.

Thanks Doug

you just proved the point.





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