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from: `ben` argee45{at}hotmail.Co
date: 2005-04-02 21:49:00
subject: Re: Truth Vs Reality ... Laura Bush Style!

Deborah Terreson wrote:
> In article  , USA
>   wrote:
>
> > On 1 Apr 2005 23:48:56 GMT, dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre
Lieven)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
> >>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:10:10 -0800, "Society"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1112231042.944302.187070{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Society wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [Among other swerves] into unreality Michael C.
> >>>>>> Morris takes in this article is his "we also need
> >>>>>> everyone... to" blah blah blah plea. 
Feminism is a
> >>>>>> political movement born of a fascist demand that
> >>>>>> everyone conform to its demands. [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050330/ap_on_re_as/laura_bush_
> afghanistan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   "KABUL, Afghanistan - Inspired by Afghan women
> >>>>>   who have boldly shed their burqas after years of
> >>>>>   Taliban repression, Laura Bush urged more
> >>>>>   educational opportunities and greater rights
> >>>>>   for women
> >>>>
> >>>>...but none for men...
> >>>>
> >>>>>   Wednesday in this war-wrecked nation."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> v curious -- distribution of feminism around
> >>>>> the planet by this neoconservative cabal [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>"Neoconservative", ooh!   >>>>and wiggles fingers>  "Neoconservative" is
> >>>>just left liberal* code for "International Jewish
> >>>>Conspiracy/Zionist Occupied Government".
> >>>
> >>> Say it isn't so!  That sounds so insensitive and judgmental and
angry.
> >>> The liberals tell us all the time that they are never, never any
of
> >>> those things. They want nothing but more
"diversity" in the world
but
> >>> only so long as those diverse people agree with them. 

> >>
> >>Well, just as Karl Rove doesn't represent all "
conservatives ", I
dare
> >>say that John Kerry didn't represent all " liberals ".
> >
> > Karl Rove according to liberals is an evil genius.  It is hardly
fair
> > to compare someone of that ability to a common traitor.
>
> Karl Rove is a creep, helping those who would exploit God's creation
for
> their material, worldly gain. Truly one of the Sons of Belial.
> >
> >>Now, I happen to be a " liberal " of sorts... The 19th Century
kind,
> >>who believes in personal responsibility, as well as a public
sector,
> >>where the powers of private capital can be... mitigated.
> >
> > That smacks of not only class envy but also of socialism in
general.
>
> Sounds to me like Adam Smith.
>
> Whoops! Wasn't supposed to know that..
> >>
> >>In that, I rather like much, though certainly not all, of what we
> >>have up here. I dare say that most of the fine regulars here from
> >>the States would say similar about the feminised parts of their
> >>republic.
> >>
> >>And, my core question on this issue, is a simple one:
> >>
> >>What have the present set of US " conservatives " accomplished
> >>towards men's rights, and towards men being given practical and
> >>assured equal rights ?
> >
> > Nothing.
>
> Exaclly. Aren't the conservatives supposed to be better than the
liberals?

Today's Republicans are no more true conservatives than today's
Democrats are true liberals.



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