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from: Grizzlie Antagonist griz
date: 2005-04-02 00:50:00
subject: Re: Truth Vs Reality ... Laura Bush Style!

On 1 Apr 2005 15:11:05 -0800, "Hyerdahl"  wrote:

>
>Society wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>> news:1112231042.944302.187070{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>(edit)
>
>> > Society wrote:>    On every radio show I've ever done with
>ideological
>>    feminists -- where I was able to raise the Selective
>>    Service issue -- I was met with a prolonged pause,
>>    then a gush of unanimous and unequivocal agreement
>>    that women should be compelled to register, then the
>>    topic was swiftly changed to something else -- a
>>    peculiarly feminine technique for avoiding unpleasantness.
>>
>
>There is no real reason for women to comment on the draft, because,
>where women have uequal rights they will also have unequal duties.  If
>men want women to be drafted, they will have to open up all military
>options TO women.



But Puke, on December 27, 2001, at 3:52:31 GMT (still December 26 on
the Pacific Coast), you BOASTED about how women were taking more and
more "men's only" jobs in the military and how they were doing this on
a daily basis.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.men/msg/0d7dfc16f8de5fad?dmode=source

You said, "This man's army is no longer for men alone.  .   
Every day that passes finds more of those "male only" jobs going to
women."

In other words, you were BOASTING that these military options WERE
opening up and that they were continuing to open up "every day".  And
that was over 39 months ago.

So if military options were opening up for women on a DAILY BASIS on
December 27, 2001, which is what you said at the time, surely all of
them have been opened up by now in April 2005.

Interestingly enough, at 17:17:44 GMT on the same day, T.R. Ellis
responded.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.men/msg/e76f3fa390ca71f6?dmode=source


He said, "Really?  Which "male only" job went to women today, 27
December 2001, Carol Ann?  You don't know, do you? 

What a silly and ineffective little feminist you are."

And that ended the conversation.  You couldn't answer his question.

But in order to try to score a rhetorical victory against PKrause on
December 27, 2001, you said, in effect, that women had ALREADY
achieved parity in the military.

Yet in April 2005, you maintain that women SHOULDN'T be drafted
because they have NOT achieved parity.

You can't have it both ways, Puke.  Which is it?  Choose!  Were you
lying to PKrause on December 27, 2001 or did you lie to Society on
April 1, 2005?



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"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their
disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as
their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their
soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and
presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the
counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. 
Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be
placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must
be without.  It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men
of intemperate minds cannot be free.  Their passions forge their
fetters."
     
     - Edmund Burke, Letter to a Member of the National Assembly (1791)


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