> >Ya. Well as I have seen from his inanne posts.... this putz wants us
>>to believe in a Free Lunch and there ain't no such animal in this
>>world!
>
> And certainly not in a dance club! The clock is ticking and the client
> who doesn't tip generally gets ignored. That's the whole of it - supply
> and demand.

This is how it's SUPPOSED to work.  However, in the real world, it doesn't
work that way.  Some men have figured out how to get laid by these dancers
without tipping them.  If you can't see the obvious problem this creates for
the dancers once the men who do tip figure this out, I can't help you.


> Not only does Ray's advice seem utterly worthless - it appears actually
> counterproductive.

Saving money is counterproductive?

Why should I tip a stripper if a guy who doesn't tip her (yet who also meets
her at her club) is able to fuck her?


> A few weeks ago one of the regular posters here actually submitted what
> I consider excellent advice. If a guy wants to meet a dancer, the best
> place to do so is in the after hours clubs that some dancers frequent.

Wow, be a "stage door johnny?"  How lame.

> Change the environment and the girls often let down their guard.
>
> Personally; it would be a coffee shop, Barnes & Noble, the theater (I
> love old movies), or at a college sports event.

All places that a woman can turn around and say she's not at to meet men.


> The dance club scene is artificial and constrained by rules that Ray
> seems completely unaware of.

The rules aren't being enforced.  That's my point.  I'm not going to
subsidize some other guy fucking a dancer who breaks her rules when it suits
her.  Let him pay her way through life.


>For me, dancing was business, pure and
> simple. I knew it was all about sex and illusion.

Exactly: if I know the other guy is getting laid without tipping you, the
illusion is shattered.  The men are doing this with witnesses, and they are
doing it repeatedly.  Calling them liars (which is what you are doing if you
dispute their claims) isn't going to wash here.


>But in a book store
> you ask: "Have you read this?" And the ice is broken.

Bullshit.  If anything, that's worse for the guy because his agenda is
sexual but he has to hide it.  The chick can respond favorably to him, but
she can also leave him in limbo, or just require him to take a rather brutal
risk of rejection that a decent or smart man simply isn't going to take if
he doesn't need to.


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