From: Tony Williams 

On 06/22/2005 11:20 PM, Adam Flinton wrote:
> Tony Williams wrote:
>
>> On 06/22/2005 12:40 PM, Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>> One, I don't have a dog in the fight re the authenticity of
>>> religious  texts as I'm an atheist.  Two, Shakespear, Plato, etc.
>>> aren't being  presented as "evidence" to drag down a
president and a
>>> prime minister.
>>
>> Tell that to Richard III.
>>
> Nah that's different (apart from the fact that Richard was already long
> dead).

Sure. Like I said, I wasn't commenting on the memo - just on the statement
that Will's work wasn't being used to drag people down.

> That's similar to Stalin erazing people from photos etc.

Yup. The people in question weren't around to defend themselves, but I bet
they had family/descendents who weren't best pleased.

> This is more like being told that the Minister of Defence & a Russian
> spy are both frequenting the same "good time girl".
>
> One related good read (fairly suprising detail in some places but hey I
> suppose the ppl are dead etc)
>
> http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/TheRecordsofthePermanentUnderSecretarysDepa
rtment_1.pdf
>
>
> It's also much lcoser to Katharine Gun (the lass {at} GCHQ who told people
> about US bugging of the UN).
>
> In the case of Gun it was once more purely about the content as it was
> an email in which case in many ways there never was "an original".


I have a vague memory of this one (had a mate at Aber who ended up as a
spook, and he was always going on about that sort of thing) - thanks for
the link.

> There are lots of others.
>
> The difference here is that this is a semi-offical leak. i.e. not just
> some out raged small person in Chelt but some person with a comfortable
> pension & possibly a knighthood.
>
> Such leaks have been a factor in UK political life since...........
>
> I would ask you to watch out for the Yes Minister/Prime Minister
> episodes which relate to leaks.

I liked "Yes [Prime ] Minister", but "The New
Statesman" was more my speed: "Make the cheque out to the
Campaign Against Slum Housing - oh, just use the initials - yes, C-A-S-H.
Thank-you so much."

--
Tony
> Adam

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