Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2005 15:11:05 -0800, "Hyerdahl"
 wrote:
>
> >
> >Society wrote:
> >>  wrote in message
> >> news:1112231042.944302.187070{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >(edit)
> >> >
> >There is no real reason for women to comment on the draft, because,
> >where women have uequal rights they will also have unequal duties.
If
> >men want women to be drafted, they will have to open up all military
> >options TO women.
>
> But Puke, on December 27, 2001, at 3:52:31 GMT (still December 26 on
> the Pacific Coast), you BOASTED about how women were taking more and
> more "men's only" jobs in the military and how they were doing this
on
> a daily basis.

You seem to be combining my words above with some named Parg, but
that's ok; I'll comment anyway.  Having women doing more and more of
mens job is not the same as military parity.
That being the case, it is quite easy to say that more and more jobs
are going to women AND that military parity has not yet been acquired.

>
>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.men/msg/0d7dfc16f8de5fad?dmode=source
>
> You said, "This man's army is no longer for men alone.  .  
> Every day that passes finds more of those "male only" jobs going to
> women."
>
Well, Parg said that, and it would seem to be true.  See below:

"But it wasn't until 1994 when the risk rule was rescinded, that women
were allowed to take jobs that put them in the direct line of fire.
That opened up 260,000 new jobs, so that today, the only positions
still off limits to women are in the infantry, Special Operation
Forces, and on submarines."

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2226/context/cover/

> In other words, you were BOASTING that these military options WERE
> opening up and that they were continuing to open up "every day".  And
> that was over 39 months ago.

Parg did seem to be posting that, and it does seem to hold true.  More
and more women seem to be doing more and more military jobs.
>
> So if military options were opening up for women on a DAILY BASIS on
> December 27, 2001, which is what you said at the time, surely all of
> them have been opened up by now in April 2005.

Not really.  You show a gaping lapse in logic, dear.  If I give one
woman each day a new position previously occupied by men, that would
not necessarily result in equity.


>
> Interestingly enough, at 17:17:44 GMT on the same day, T.R. Ellis
> responded.

TR Ellis and Grizz are both Dave Sim cockpuppets, dear.
> >
> But in order to try to score a rhetorical victory against PKrause on
> December 27, 2001, you said, in effect, that women had ALREADY
> achieved parity in the military.

No, I never did, and having read some of Parg's posts, neither did
he/she.

>
> Yet in April 2005, you maintain that women SHOULDN'T be drafted
> because they have NOT achieved parity.

Women have NOT achieved military parity, and more and more military
jobs today are being done by women.  I wonder why Dave Sim and his cock
puppets can use no logic.
> >
>
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>
> grizzlieantagonist{at}yahoo.com
>
> "Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause for tonight's
player of the game - FRAN-CIS-CO SAN-N-N-N-TOS!
>     - Brian Anthony (P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium), June 11,
2004
>
>
> "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their
disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion
as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as
their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and
presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the
counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves.
 Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite
be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there
must be without.  It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things
that men of intemperate minds cannot be free.  Their passions forge
their fetters."
>
>      - Edmund Burke, Letter to a Member of the National Assembly
(1791)



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