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date: 2004-05-24 15:21:42
subject: Re: Single Payer Universal Health Care

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From: "W. Baker" 
Newsgroups: alt.cancer.support, alt.support.diabetes, fidonet.diabetes,
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Subject: Re: Single Payer Universal Health Care
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:21:42 +0000 (UTC)
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In alt.support.diabetes Proconsul  wrote:

: "Skeptic"  wrote in message
: news:9Jbsc.103231$iF6.9532547@attbi_s02...
: |
: | "Ted Rosenberg"  wrote in message
: | news:2hc3bpFb2krnU1@uni-berlin.de...
: | >
: | >
: | > Skeptic wrote:
: | > > I don't disagree with much of your overall point, but let me try to
: | > 
: | > You have one major mistake, and it is a MAJOR one.
: | > Medicare overhead  is a very small fraction of overhead of prepaid
: | > health plans.
: |
: | Any thoughts as to why?

: It's not a fraction of prepaid health plans.....Medicare, like any
: government bureaucracy, lives on excessive paperwork managed by hordes of
: overpaid civil servants. They just conveniently report whatever part of the
: cost they want to report....just as those who champion single payer don't
: tell you that all too often care is rationed and unavailable to
: many....another way of keeping costs down. I prefer the private sector and
: open competition - whenever you have a free market and competition, quality
: goes up and costs go down....that's an a priori truth.....

: PC

And HMO's don't ration healthcare unless they are forced?  

Wendy

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