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echo: r_catholic
to: Patriot Games
from: Dionisio
date: 2007-03-22 21:27:04
subject: Re: Catholics Will Do Everything Possible To Prevent Homosexual Civil

From: Dionisio 

Patriot Games wrote:

> "Dionisio"  wrote:
>>So far, the law's been a bigger burden on the heterosexuals. 
>>It was a vote well-cast.
>
> If fags had NOT attacked and demanded the M-word they'd ALREADY have civil
> unions and be enjoying the rights and priviliges they should have.

Yeah, yeah...

Argument: Call it anything you want, just don't call it marriage.

Okay.

Done.

"Domestic partnership."

What's that? An "end run" you say? We were just following your
suggestion, yet you object
to the term. Why?

Oh, "domestic partnerships treat the people to the same sort of
obligations and responsibilities that marriage does." Well, yes, that
*is* the point remember.

Oh, we went too far? There's something inherently dangerous in making
same-sex relationships into a social institution advocating responsible
behavior, or in holding
same-sex couples to obligations?

Don't get so red in the face! What's upset you now? Eh? "Same-sex
couples" is a term you
find offensive? "Raises an immoral lifestyle choice to something
seemingly on par with the
traditional, heterosexual, concept of the term 'couple' "?

All, right, we'll get back to that. First though, I'd like an answer as to how it is
undesirable to allow same-sex *persons* (better?) to enter into agreements
that tie them
to one another with obligations and responsi...

Now you're objecting to an "allusion to the heterosexual phrase 'tying
the knot' "?

All, right, I'll remember that. Back to the question: How does fostering acts of
responsibility and obligation between two same-sex people...

"Because it creates a fake impression -- an illusion -- of
respectability, and a mockery
of marriage." I see.

So, in other words, we can call it anything we want; but it will always be
this "mockery"
of marriage, and you will oppose it regardless of its name?

I see.

So, in other words, you lied. We can't call it anything.

Well, I guess we'll call it what it's supposed to be then: Marriage. Why should
*we* join
the ranks of the fork-tongued? It seems there are enough people in that
immoral lifestyle
choice already...


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