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to: Adam Flinton
from: Mark
date: 2005-06-27 15:05:08
subject: Re: Rumsfeld - `We`re gonna chicken out and dump Iraq`

From: "Mark" 


"Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
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> Mark wrote:
>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
>> news:op.ss1jit08eipai0{at}news.barkto.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:01:20 -0400, Rich Gauszka

>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll give the devil his due and say I don't think Rumsfeld would
>>>>'chicken
>>>>out'.  The populace was pretty evenly divided on the war
from the start
>>>>and
>>>>public opinion is starting to sway in the 'it's not worth it camp' so
>>>>anything could happen in the future. It appears to be a mess with no
>>>>viable
>>>>solution now.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The next major terror attack in the US will sway it back to
"worth it."
>>
>>
>> Being that we all have access to the same sources of information, I
>> cannot fathom coming to the conclusion that it's a "mess with no viable
>> solution." Rich and Sen. Kennedy are entitled to think what they want,
>> but when Kennedy says "quagmire" from his position of
power, it's not
>> very helpful -- to put it way too mildly.
>>
>> From what I see, it's going at least as well as could be expected,
>> probably better than that. I never expected it to be a wham, bam, thank
>> you maam thing. I believe I've said I figured about 5 years, along with a
>> much, much smaller permanent presence. Note too, that Rumsfeld didn't say
>> he thought the Iraq insurgency in particular would last 12 years, but
>> that that insurgencies in general can last for a number of different time
>> periods; I think it was Abizaid that I heard say the actual average for
>> all insurgencies is 9 years.
>
> ROFLMAO Cough cough....ummmm & in a large number of those
> insurgencies....the insurgents win.......
>
> So......we're 2 & 1/2 years in....6/12 years before the US helos are
> flying off the roof of the Baghdad embassy?

If we're stupid enough to do that again, then we're dead meat in our
cities, towns, train stations, airports and ports forevermore.

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