>TomHendricks474{at}cs.com wrote in message
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>> Some say life 'emerged'. Then through
>> the first replicator adapted to the environment
>> it was in.
>> But that supposes a 'grace' period during which
>> the environment did not in any way hinder
>> the replicator, until it had the needed time
>> to adapt to it's environment.
>> 
>> There was no 'grace' period. And any scenario
>> that allows for one is making a mistake IMO.
>> 
>> Comment?
>
>There were several replicators but we descend from the only one that
>kept adaptaing from the beginning, either by chance or superiority.
>Environment is a single word for several aspects of Reality different
>from biological entities. Those environmetal aspects that didn`t
>change for a while contributed to the successful replicator`s
>adaptation to the environmental aspects that did change. Once a
>replicator emerges, its instances form part of the environment.

TH
Wait a minute here. So you are saying a repliator
pops up and it is instantly in tune with and 
magically and instantly adapted to the environment?
Then you believe in the grace period theory. Or the
idea that life popped up in a set-aside vacumn that was protected on all sides
till the lid was removed?



 Maybe
>there was competition among different classes of replicators until
>only one remained. But we can perfectly well envision a set of
>conditions that favor the emergence of replicators that would last for
>enough time to give it time to adapt, 


TH
I can't - without having a magical grace period.
I would ask you how you would envision such a thing?
Remember your replicator can't hide from my sun.
And the uv and temp cycle would destroy any replicator
the minute it came into existence UNLESS it already was stable in the
environment - and that suggests
earlier chemical adaptive aspects.




but to adapt there must be
>changes to adapt to. So it adapted against other classes or
>replicators, against other instances of th replicator, and/or against
>some changes in the enviroment.

TH
No it was burned up



 There is no period of grace in
>Reality, there are no stationary conditiond, Reality always changes,
>but not all aspects cahnge at the same rate. There can be scenarios
>withperiods of grace in only those aspectsof the environment that
>favor the emergence of replicators, like for instance, stable
>concentrations of chemicals durng long periods of time compared to the
>quantity of replicators.

TH
Now you are getting to my point and suggesting the
obvious. There was  a type of pre-life chemical
selection that favored that that was more stable.
And that is my point - the point of this thread.
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