"Doug Anderson"  wrote in message
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> dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) writes:
>
>> "JWB" (jwb3333__takeoutallthis__{at}excite.com) writes:
>> > "John Royer"  wrote
in message
>> > news:Ud%Wd.6749$fW4.231944{at}news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >
>> >> If it would be unfair to say that all women are airheads
because most
>> >> women are not, and it would be unfair to say that all kids are bad,
>> >> because most kids are not, why is it ok to say that men have
>> >> maintained
>> >> superior priveleges most of the time, when most men have not?
>> >> Or does the history book you have not write and record
the fact that
>> >> for
>> >> every woman that is killed violently, 4 men are killed violently.
>> >
>> > how many (of both sexes) are killed by men, and how many by women?
>>
>> How is it better for a man to be killed by another man, rather than by
>> a woman ? Your statement implies this.
>
> No it doesn't imply that.
>
> John is implying that feminism is at fault because more men die
> violently than women.  This is a tough argument to maintain in the
> face of who it is that does the killing (mostly men, not feminists).
Again the fallacy of your reasoned discourse  comes through. I in no way
implied feminism is responsible for the disparate number of male to female
deaths. My point is that as a society if we are going to address wrongs does
it not make more sense to pay attention to the greater evil? Feminism does
not support this. They want the funding directed to womens issues only.

>> >> Or that men do far more of the more dangerous jobs
because they must,
>> >> otherwise our society as we know it would not exist?
>> >
>> > "jobs" as we know them are a fairly recent thing.
Most people worked
>> > for
>> > themselves until the industrial age (even serfs were basically
>> > self-employed).

Serfs worked the land of the nobles. If they did not they were expelled MEN,
women and children. However the biggest difference was If the noble decided
to go to war the MALE serfs were required ( or expelled) to fight for the
noble and die. The women and children suffered too. I see no priveledge
here. BTW. What about the noble women? I can't recall a charitable movement
organized by them to help lessen the burden of the serfs. They protected
their priveledge just as zealously as the men did.
>>
>> Flounce evasion noted.
>>
>> > And in our society, your job is your choice.
>>
>> And, such choices are the reason that women, as a class, earn less $$
>> than do men, as a class. See Warren Farrell " Why Men Earn
More ", 2005.

Any yet they use the statistic that women learnn 33% less than men. Who
wants their cake?

>> >> Or the fact that men live on avaerage 7 years less than
women and yet
>> >> 90%
>> >> of the funding goes towards womens medical issues? etc.etc.etc.
>> >
>> > Men statistically live shorter lives due to war / the jobs they
>> > *choose* /
>> > etc.

While a contributing factor, the question is why is 90% of medical research
directed to womens issues in ANGLO SAXON societies?


>> Wrong. But, thanks for showing that you don't know what you're talking
>> about.
>>
>> At the time that women, stastically, have their first cardiac event,
>> most men have been dead for several years. Yet, women's health care
>> gets far more funding, nonetheless.
>>
>> How many " runs for prostate cancer " have you seen
Teevee ads for ?
>> As many men die from prostate cancer as do women die from breast cancer.
>> But, the latter gets ten times the health research funding that the
>> former gets.
>
> Could it be because the survival rate for prostate cancer is now 97% in
> the US?

And still just as many men die as do women for breat cancer. Where is the
funding for prostate?
Both are scourages. My question would be, If men pay half of the taxes,
(likely more) then how come 50% of medical is not directed towards men?

>
> (see http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/prostate/prostate.htm).
>
> In other words, we _know_ what to do about prostate cancer.
>
>> > I will agree that it seems a larger amount is spent on women's medical
>> > issues.
>>
>> And, thats why women live longer.
>
> I think you have it backwards.  Women use more health care resources
> _because_ they live longer (on average).




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