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Aggy wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>
>>>>but they work much worse than
>>>>men but demanding the same money for substandard work.
>>>
>>>
>>>No dear. Women are doing the same jobs as men and at the same
>>>quality but get paid less for doing them. As we are doing the same
>>>job at the same
>>
>>>quality then we should get paid the same. It's only fair, dear.
>>
>>Women get paid the same amount, or 5% more, than men to do the same
>>job, with the same hours, in the same conditions, with the same
>>qualifications and education.
>
> Not here they don't, dear.
>
>>It is a fiction, a total lie from Feminists, that women get paid less
>>than men.
>
> No it isn't, dear.
>
>>It simply isn't true.
>>
>>Let's start with an anecdote:
>>
>>I have worked as an HR/Bookkeeper temp. What that means is that I
>>post payroll, and have access to all HR files. Men and women with
>>the same educations and positions get paid the same, to the nickle.
>>Jr partners get paid the same regardless of gender. I have seen no
>>evidence of gender bias in pay.
>
> That's the way it should be dear. Everyone should be paid the same
> regardless of gender.
>
>>If there were widespread income disparity, it would be a simple matter
>>to email the payroll file, minus names and SSN's, and adding gender,
>>as an Excel document and send it to NOW. This would take 10 seconds.
>>Take into account that 90% of HR and Bookkeepping personnel are
>>female, and it flies in the face of reason that women get paid less.
>>If that were the case, women would know and blow the whistle, or
>>companies would hire only women to save money.
>
> It's nice that at least some companies do treat both sexes as equal when it
> comes to salary, dear.
>
>>Let's continue with quotes from William Farrell's book "'Why men earn
>>more":
>>
>>"The great news is that there are 90 fields that pay women more than
>>men and there are 39 fields that pay 5 percent more than men."
>>
>>"Among the top paying professions for women, is a sales engineer. A
>>female sales engineer is paid 43 percent more than a male engineer."
>>
>>"One of the most startling statistics in Farrell's book is that
>>unmarried women end up earning more money than unmarried men. Farrell
>>explains that unmarried men end up taking more fulfilling jobs because
>>they lack the responsibility of having a family or being a caretaker.
>>While women take on work as a part of their identity, focusing on how
>>they can earn enough money to support themselves. When they do that,
>>they are more willing to relocate and spend longer hours at work."
>
> I can't address his last point, dear as I am a married woman and have been
> forever :) but does he bring to light how many fields pay men more than
> women, and can he prove any of this?
Once again women want proff having got their own
way on the basis of LIES for thrity years.
D.
>>What you are quoting, when you claim women earn less than men, is the
>>Census' gross income figures, divided by the number of women, or men.
>>
>
> I wasn't quoting dear, nor did I get my figures from the census. Only from
> actual experiences and seeing other people's earnings from both sexes, same
> job, same company etc.
>
>>This does not take into account the choices women make in careers,
>>whether they take off 5 years to rear children, whether they work part
>>time, or whether they are a SAHM.
>>
>
> I took more than that to raise my child dear. :)
>
>>It is, simply put, an errant conclusion based upon the incorrect data
>>set.
>
> It's not errant, dear and the data I had was quite correct but looking at
> the bigger picture by adding your data makes the picture less black and
> white.
>
> Aggy.
>
>
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