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Hyerdahl wrote:
> Dustbin wrote:
>
>>lukne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here is a good article about gender differences. I'll be somewhat
>
> interested in what you guys think of it. I found it in Salon.com.
>
>>>Just like a woman
>>>Lawrence Summers was right about one thing: There are innate
>
> differences between males and females. And if we want everyone to
> succeed, we shouldn't dismiss them.
>
> There are no differences between women and men that should EXCLUDE one
> or the other from societal institutions, no matter how you want to
> parse the differences. If women and men learn differently, we find
> ways to teach. It's just that simple.
>
>
>>>By Lorraine Dusky
>>>
>>>March 2, 2005 | Others besides me have noticed that most
>>>whistle-blowers of late have been women -- former Enron vice
>
> president Sherron Watkins, retired FBI agent Coleen Rowley and former
> WorldCom
>
>>>audit executive Cynthia Cooper. To underscore the point, Time made
>>>these three its Persons of the Year in 2002. Recently, HealthSouth
>>>financial executive Diana Henze joined the ranks of female
>>>whistle-blowers.
>>>
>
>
> So, basically, you seem to be highlighting the FACT that women prefer
> things honest and above board when it comes to business.
> However, based on that I don't propose that we keep men out of
> businesses. :-)
>
>
>>>Could it be that women generally are more ethical than men? Yes,
>
> wrote Harvard University's Carol Gilligan more than two decades ago in
> the book "In a Different Voice." While some hemmed and hawed,
> Gilligan's argument was largely embraced by feminists. Now others are
> saying that women are more likely to be the straight shooters who cry
> foul when they see their corporate companions jiggering the books.
>
> Again, that more women may indeed be more ethical than men, that is no
> reason to keep men from business. :-) Not all men are dishonest,
> after all. :-) I don't think men have much to fear, in this regard,
> i.e. that women will try to exclude men because they are less honest.
> :-)
>
> "Women Are> More Likely to Blow Whistle" announced a
2002 headline in
> the Los > Angeles Times. "Women see things in a much bigger context
> than do men," says Judith Rosener, a professor at the University of
> California at Irvine. I "Ways Women Lead," a 2002 Harvard Business
> School e-book, Rosener
> proclaims that a woman's way of leading -- interactive, cooperative,
> inclusive and personal -- is profoundly different from the traditional
> male way of leading, which she calls "command and control."
She goes on
> to say that women consider the larger implications of their actions
> when making a business decision, while men focus on the immediate:
> that is, how much money they're going to make, or whether they're
> likely to get caught.
>
>>Given the above load of 8765, I could not resist
>>posting this little gem:
>>
>>
>>+++++++++
>>The Ladies Who Lie
>>Peter Allen
>>Daily Mail (4/12/2003) p. 19.
>>
>>LITTLE white lies are part of everyday life and
>>women are no less susceptible than men to
>>twisting the truth.
>>It can help with everything from avoiding
>>unwanted dates to appearing delighted with an
>>unwanted Christmas present.
>>But it appears that dishonesty runs much deeper
>>among British females, with a study finding that
>>94 per cent lie regularly.
>>Only six per cent of the 5,000 women questioned
>>claimed solely to tell the truth.
>>An astonishing three quarters admitted to
>>telling a 'big life changing lie', such as
>>pretending to be on the Pill.
>>Almost half of those who took part In the
>>National Scruples and Lies quiz also said that
>>if they became pregnant through an affair they
>>might tell their steady partner the child was his.
>>Common admissions include faking an orgasm - 48
>>per cent admitted doing this - and letting on
>>that they weigh less than they do (51 per cent).
>>A startling 88 per cent admitted feigning
>>delight at Christmas presents, while 60 per cent
>>had called in sick because of a hangover.
>>Other seasonal lies include blaming the postman
>>for a 'missing' Christmas card (51 per cent),
>>and passing unwanted presents on to other people
>>(62 per cent).
>>A third exaggerate their salaries or lie about
>>their backgrounds.
>>The survey also revealed that 50 per cent of
>>women will take an unofficial day off in
>>December for last-minute shopping.
>>Most women 'don't feel bad at all' about their
>>white lies, the survey says.
>>'Women lie because they're afraid to tell the
>>truth,' said psychologist Susan Guilliam.
>>'They're scared of hurting people, scared of
>>failing and of being criticised. Women are
>>expected to fulfil expectations, and to get what
>>they want in life they feel they have to gloss
>>over the truth.'
>>A quarter of those questioned said they would
>>flirt with their boss at the office Christmas
>>party to get on.
>>But Mrs Guilliam warned: 'The sort of moral code
>>women now follow could lead to disaster the
>>backlash on behaviour like sleeping with the
>>boss will be huge.'
>>The average age of the respondents for the quiz,
>>commissioned by That's Life! magazine, was 38.
>>Its editor, Jo Checkley, said: 'Women find it a
>>struggle to get through the day without telling
>>little white lies, but much of it is down to
>>political correctness.
>>'Just imagine the consequences if women always
>>told the truth. They would say things Like,
>>"Yes, you do look fat in that dress"; "The bus
>>wasn't late, I just couldn't be bothered to get
>>out of bed"; "You're the worst lover I've ever
>>had"; or "I'm not listening to you because you
>>bore me to death".
>>'You wouldn't have a friend left in the world.
>>'But British scruples do seem to be going down
>>the plughole and women no longer seem to have a
>>clear-cut idea of what is normal.'
>>
>>+++++++++++++
>>
>>So 95% of the bitches are LIARS and 75% are
>>prepared to tell serious life-changing LIES.
>>
>>A female who makes a rape allegation should be
>>chucked out the F&^%ing door without hesitation.
>>
>>Where is the basis for taking females seriously.
>
>
> Good article; it not only mentions that women lie but also the reasons
> for their lies. Sort of like comparing the reason Bill Clinton lied
> about sex with the reason Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction.
>
> :-)
>
I don't really care what excuses are used for
LYING - whether it is Clinton and sex or Bush
and WMD. What interests me is the remarkable
scale of female LYING: 95%. Even that it is 75%
for serious life-changing LIES. Also that
females don't seem to think that LYING is wrong.
Great! Now we know how you get past polygraphs -
don't we?
D.
>
>>Dustbin.
>
>
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