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echo: pol_inc
to: Earl Croasmun
from: Dave Drum
date: 2009-04-05 07:09:00
subject: Re: ACORN CORRUPTION

-=> EARL CROASMUN wrote to Dave Drum <=-

 ~>  ~> Show us where you have quit hammering on ACORN for doing as the law
 ~>  EC> requires?

 ~>  EC> I don't think John ever started doing that, so why do you want him to
 ~>  EC> stop?

 ~> Are you nutz??? He began with hammering them for doing what the law
equires
 ~> and hasn't let up.

 EC> To repeat, I haven't seen John criticize the organization even once for
 EC> doing what the law requires.  I have seen him discuss the doing of
 EC> things that the law forbids, but that is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE
 EC> of "what the law requires."  I realize I am repeating
myself, but in
 EC> this instance it seems necessary.  Do you understand yet?

Excerpts from some of Fitzgerald's posts on the subject ... note that many seem
to be from a macro, as they are identical

 JF> Unlike ACORN who have been caught turning in their 'spoilage' over 
 JF> and over, for many years.  Your fallacious defense of ACORN only
 JF> serves to further highlight their many years of corruption.
 JF> Do continue.

 JF> 1.  ACORN has turned in more than 50,000 reg'forms, many
 JF> with forged signatures from ACORN workers, many have been

 JF> Unlike ACORN who have been caught turning in their 
 JF> 'spoilage' over and over, for many years.  Your ...

 JF> Unlike ACORN who have been caught turning in their 'spoilage' over
 JF> and over, for many years.  Your fallacious defense of ACORN only
 JF> serves to further highlight their many years of corruption.
 JF> Do continue.

 JF> Unlike ACORN who have been caught turning in their 'spoilage' over 
 JF> and over, for many years.  Your fallacious defense of ACORN only
 JF> serves to further highlight their many years of corruption.
 JF> Do continue.

Etc. Etc. Etc. ad nauseum

Using the word "caught" implies that ACORN is doing something
wrong. Trying to
brand ACORN with the mis-steps of its workers is misleading at best. ANd
downright dishonest in fact.

Certainly _some_ ACORN workers turned in bogus forms and were paid for those
forms by ACORN - who then turned them in as the law requires. But, Fitzgerald
has only recently begun acknowledging that ACORN was complying with the law on
this ... and ignoring that it was ACORN which was victimised by crooked
canvassers, not ACORN trying to victimise the "system".

Any way a reasonable person looks at it such claims are both disingenuous and
dishonest.

I can see that you are likely to try to stretch this into a series such as you
had with Bob Klahn over your supposed misunderstanding of whether John McCain
was at fault and/or lied about driving his aeroplane into the ocean.

I will not engage in such a protracted discussion with you.

... None are so busy as the fool and the knave. - John Dryden
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