From: "Mark" 

Look, as I've already said, I have no problem with the loophole being
closed, but it's still just not that big a deal  

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in
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> It's not the hiring and firing that is the problem. It's the bypassing of
> Senate confirmation in the process due to the Bush sponsored change to the
> Patriot Act that is the problem - Going from 120 days to indefinite. It
> should not be a partisan issue. I wouldn't give the Dems that power either
>
> Mark wrote:
>> I'm still nonplussed about this whole thing. The president is empowered
>> to fire and hire them at will, he doesn't need any well-vetted reasons
>> for it. You're saying he should have not fired them because some Dems
>> would complain about it? Why?
>>
>> Look, don't get me wrong, it's fine with me if that loophole is closed,
>> but it's just not a big deal -- it's not like the appointees don't have
>> to follow the law. If Bush wants, for instance, his attorneys to
>> prosecute Union pension fund corruption as a higher priority than CEO
>> corruption, that's his perrogative -- they're all going to get theirs in
>> time anyway.
>>
>> In this example, union guys will be in jail between now and the Obama
>> presidency, then starting in Feb '09 the CEOs will get theirs > example actually, since Bush went after the CEO corruption that was
>> hatched before he was elected>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>> news:45ee1cdc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:45ee0b2d{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:45ee007a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Right - bunch of nothing - Just fire those prosecutors
who wouldn't
>>>>> file charges against Democrats before the election
then appoint your
>>>>> own goons without the need for Senate approval - Hail Caesar!!!
>>>> I simply don't ascribe nefarious motives to every *single* thing a
>>>> president (any president) does. My understanding is they were not
>>>> operating with their priorities in alignment with those of the
>>>> administration. You seem to think his priorities are filing charges
>>>> against Dems, I disagree. Hell Sandy Berger's sweetheart deal proves
>>>> that out. 
>>>>
>>>> My only complaint is I wish he'd fired them because they wouldn't
>>>> prosecute illegal aliens fast enough, but I know that's not true.
>>>>
>>> http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=6188497
>>> What the Justice Department has said about six U.S. attorneys who were
>>> asked to resign. Under each prosecutor are comments from previous
>>> department-issued performances reviews and then statements Tuesday by
>>> William Moschella, an associate deputy attorney general, about the
>>> reasons given that the prosecutors were asked to step down. He testified
>>> before a House Judiciary subcommittee.
>>>
>>>
>>> CAROL LAM, U.S. attorney in San Diego
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "Her gun prosecution
numbers are at the
>>> bottom of the list. ... (On immigration cases), her numbers for a border
>>> district just didn't stack up."
>>>
>>> 2005 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "An effective manager and
respected leader ...
>>> respected by the judiciary, law enforcement agencies, and (U.S.
>>> attorney's office) staff."
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> JOHN McKAY, U.S. attorney in Seattle
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "The department really had policy
>>> differences and were concerned with the manner in which he went about
>>> advocating the particular policies ... on information sharing. He spent
>>> quite a considerable amount of time advocating for a
particular system."
>>>
>>> 2006 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "An effective, well-regarded and
capable leader
>>> ... (who) established strategic goals that were appropriate to meet the
>>> priorities of the department."
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> BUD CUMMINS, U.S. attorney in Little Rock, Ark.
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "His was not for performance-based
>>> reasons. ... The administration asked Mr. Cummins to move on only after
>>> we knew that he had indicated he was not going to serve out the
>>> remainder of his term."
>>>
>>> 2006 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "Very competent and highly regarded by the
>>> federal judiciary, law enforcement and civil client agencies. ...
>>> Established strategic goals that were appropriate to meet the priorities
>>> of the department."
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> DANIEL BOGDEN, U.S. attorney for Nevada
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "There was no particular
deficiency. There
>>> was an interest in seeing renewed energy and renewed vigor in that
>>> office, really taking it to the next level."
>>>
>>> 2003 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "Highly regarded by the federal
judiciary, the
>>> law enforcement and civil client agencies, and the staff of the (U.S.
>>> attorney's office). He was a capable leader."
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> DAVID IGLESIAS, U.S. attorney for New Mexico
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "The district was in need of greater
>>> leadership. ... Mr. Iglesias had delegated to his first assistant the
>>> overall running of his office. U.S. attorneys are hired to run the
>>> office."
>>>
>>> 2005 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "Experienced in legal,
management and community
>>> relations work and was respected by the judiciary, agencies and staff.
>>> ... Had a well conceived strategic plan that complied with department
>>> priorities."
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> PAUL CHARLTON, U.S. attorney in Arizona
>>>
>>> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TESTIMONY: "Mr. Charlton had undertaken in his
>>> district a policy with regard to the taping of FBI interviews and set a
>>> policy in place there that had national ramifications. It did not go
>>> through the whole policy process. ... On the death penalty, we have a
>>> process in the Department of Justice. It is the one area that is
>>> nondelegable by the attorney general which (Mr. Charlton), in a
>>> particular case was told and authorized to seek in a particular case. He
>>> chose instead to continue to litigate after that long and exhaustive
>>> process."
>>>
>>> 2003 PERFORMANCE REVIEW: "Well respected by the (U.S.
attorney's office)
>>> staff, investigative and civil client agencies, local law enforcement
>>> community, Native American nations, and judiciary regarding his
>>> integrity, professionalism and competence."
>>>
>>

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