> > >
> > > > I guess that's why Russian women pay so much for American blue
> > jeans.>
> > > > :-)  Right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, like... 20 years ago! :-)
> > > >
> > > > No, it's true even today, and Russian women love blue
jeans still.

For someone who has never been out of Podunk you have a lot to say  haha





> > >
> > > So if it's so true, give an example of a price that
> > > Russian women are paying. :-)  (While you're at it,
> > > try to find your NRA lifetime membership card :-)
> >
> >
> > Well, to prove that Russians like blue jeans I don't have to supply a
> > price, and, as you know, jeans come in all different styles and prices.
> > Here is what one travel cite has to say about blue jeans in Russia:
> >
> > http://www.oksanas.net/FAQ.htm
> >
> > "The obvious answer is to be you. Many have been surprised to see how
> > nicely Russians dress in everyday life, though recently blue jeans have
> > become a dominant fashion trend. If you want to fit in and be less
> > obvious in a crowd, some black pants, and black shoes will help. Sport
> > coats are common with well-to-do men..."  My NRA card has never been
> > any of your business, Mark.
>
> And this proves that jeans are expensive, how?
>
> About your NRA membership card: What NRA membership card? :-)
>
> > > > > It's funny to hear you suggest that foreign brides
> > > > > are going to have their hearts and minds won by
> > > > > feminist values once they hit American shores when you
> > > > > have such a condescending, incorrect view of their culture.
> > > >
> > > > There is nothing "condecending" I have said
(or feel) about Russian
> > > > culture, but it is obvious to me that poverty stricken Russian
> > women
> > > > sign up to marry American strangers, and yet American women don't
> > feel
> > > > the need to do the same.
> > >
> > > Ever hear of eharmony.com?
> > >
> > Sure, but that isn't about buying a submissive spouse;  that's just
> > about finding a dating venue.
>
> So these women don't date strangers? :-)
>
> > Most people, today, are simply too busy
> > with their careers to find time for meeting people the same way they
> > did before women worked outside the home.
>
> Yeah.  OK.  It was so much easier for women to meet
> men back, er, when they were at home all day. :-)
>
> > Although, many people meet
> > their mates at work, I suppose.
>
> Before Anita "coke can" Hill, certainly. :-)  Work
> was the double-dipper's playground for meeting
> "non-sexist" provider men.
>
> >  And eharmony.com is used by BOTH sexes
> > whereas, only insecure men seek submissive women from poverty stricken
> > countries.
>
> Yeah, Donald Trump is really insecure. :-)
>
> > > > > As I said, times have changed since the
politically incorrect
> > > > > days of foreigners' accents being made of and them being
> > > > > expected to assimulate into WASP values ASAP.

I don't know if that was ever true. Although people might make fun of a bad
accent whether it be Cockney or German.



> > > >
> > > > I can't speak for your friends (if you have any), but I
can assure
> > you
> > > > that mine would no more laugh at your mail order bride's accent
> > than
> > > > they would at her Levis.  :-)
> > >
> > > That would be rather difficult since she doesn't own a pair. :-)
> > > I think she does have some Italian jeans.
> > >
> > Well, that's all personal conjecture on your part, Mark, but I have
> > nothing against Italian jeans either.
>
> What conjecture?  I see the closet everyday.  There's
> no LEVIS in there for either of us.  For that matter,
> there's no mention of Levis in the cite you provided either.
>
> > In fact, I'd have to look but I
> > may also own a pair.  :-)

Hmm so Levi still makes their wide arse model   lol


 Jeans are part of American culture
> > regardless of where they're manufactured.

In China.



 Most folks agree with that.
>
> Yeah, I guess I'll have to take your good word for
> most folks agreeing with you there.  :-)  When it comes
> to Italian designer jeans, it's part of American culture.
>
> > > Probably the LAST thing most modern Russian immigrants
> > > come for is the "culture".
> >
> > Most people "come" to America for what they perceive to
be a 'better
> > life' and that does include American culture.

Well, it depends what you mean by culture. The "culture" of Podunk is quite
different than NY :o)




>
> Gee, you really should make a lot more money than a former
> legal secretary considering how you have your thumb
> on the pulse of what "most people" think.

hahaha



>
> > I have an acquaintence
> > whose family is from India...but he was raised in Pakistan.
>
> And he's as real as your NRA membership card. :-)
>
> > He was not
> > able to practice his skill (physical therapy) as he wanted to in
> > Pakistan, so his family moved here.  He came here with next to nothing,
> > and was embraced by American people who helped him start over.  Today,
> > he's a multimillionaire and his family has attributes from both
> > cultures.  One of his daughters is very involved with Indian dance, and
> > the other is a lawyer.  Both have western dress and Indian dress.
> >
> >   Many of them are in shock> at how dirty and dilapidated the inner
> > cities are and the low > level of public manners and discourse.
> >
> > So am I.  :-)  In a land as rich as ours, one would think we'd find
> > ways to edcuate our people better, but then, we wouldn't have the
> > government we do.
>
> Indeed.  DC has one of the highest rates of per capita spending
> per pupil yet most wind up ready-made for the prison system.

DC is 70% black.


>
> That's the "metro" system in action.
>
> >  One friend of mine > from Moscow broke down and cried when he saw what
> > L.A. really  looked like.
> > >
> > Well, LA is pretty spread out;  there are many places to "look".
> > However, if you've ever been to Venice, I understand many people come
> > away thinking it more of a sewer system than how it has been depicted
> > in the Las Vegas
> > 'Venetian'. :-)  America tends to have the best and the worst society
> > has to offer.  We have more violent gun-related murders here as well.
>
> He now lives in a section of the city where it doesn't
> have such an ethnically diverse population.  A side
> effect is that the gun-related murder rate is incredibly
> low...
>
> > > With the internet and 10 cents a minute telephone rates,
> > > most people in for the former USSR know that America is
> > > nothing like Baywatch or even "Sex and the City".
> >
> > Only the job-related parts of NYC are like "Sex and the
City", and
> > that's sort of a microcosm of its own in the scheme of things.  And I
> > agree, there is no "Baywatch", not in real life, but there are
> > lifeguards.  I spent some time in Sydney last year and took a ferry to
> > a very nice beach with lifeguards.  A pretty high school girl wanted to
> > have her picture taken with two lifeguards and they agreed.  She was
> > facing the camera, and she had one guy holding up each of her arms
> > ...with pants pulled down.  :-)  I guess she wanted a silly tourist
> > picture.  I couldn't believe they said ok.
> > :-)
>
> Wow!  That's a great story!  You ought to write fiction!
>
> > > I was laughing at propoganda from the metrovsretro.org
> > > leftists claiming the blue states were enlightened
> > > towers of progress with the "retro" states people
> > > living on farms and trailer parks.
> >
> > :-)  Well, each of us has an opinion on that, and we are free to decide
> > for ourselves whether it's "propaganda".  We get the
government we
> > deserve, and if we fail to educate our populace, the government we
> > deserve will be the govt. we are educated to expect. Don't you agree?
>
> I guess you should talk to the voters in the district about
> how they managed to waste all that money.
>
> >  In realty, the inner cities where leftism is the strongest
> > > are, at their best, office towers where most workers flee
> > > for the suburbs at night.
> >
> > Again, it really depends on what you love.  In the SITC program, the
> > gals loved NY.
>
> My wife likes it too.  For visiting.  But for most
> people with a normal income, it's laughable to try
> to have a life there.  (Especially with all the high
> paying jobs fleeing the city for New Jersey or the
> South.)
>
> > Mark, now that you're residing in ...DC...you and your
> > alleged bride should try to take a couple of days this spring, to see
> > NYC when the buds are on the trees.  You will probably also enjoy the
> > Japanese cherry trees lining parts of DC.   Both are lovely.  I could
> > easily live in a big city like NYC or enjoy the peace and solitude of
> > country life.

The "country" is sometimes noisier than the city.


>
> We live in Falls Church actually.  We've already seen the Cherry
> blossums.
>
> > > > > Chicago has the second highest population of Poles outside
> > > > > of Poland.  My father spent more time speaking Polish
> > > > > in Scottsdale than he did in the ethnic Polish neighborhood
> > > > > he grew up in Pennsylvania.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, but he also worked with Americans and socialized with them.
> > And,
> > > > as I suggested earlier, my friend from Kuwait only took
a few weeks
> > to
> > > > don cutoffs and tees.  :-)

haha you're sick you know that don't you?



> > >
> > > I don't recall you mentioning this "friend."  Is he as
> > > real as your NRA membership card? :-)
> >
> > It's a SHE.

We thought so :o)

  And she's not here now; she's back in Kuwait.  She's much
> > younger than me,

everyone is.


and was,  more correctly a friend of my kids, but she
> > spent two summers with us, so I consider her a friend as well.
> > However, whether or not you wish to believe me is not relevant to the
> > point I'm making, that American culture becomes part of the culture of
> > people who live here.
>
> I'm sure if she were real, she'd naturally be a lot younger
> than you. :-)  (Then again, she'd probably be younger
> than me too :-)
>
> > > > > It's kind of funny to hear you talk of assimulation because
> > > > > my wife was just asking me to take her to an
"American"
> > > > > restaurant.  I said there wasn't any, really.  I guess
> > > > > could take her to a steak house but she's not a big fan
> > > > > of steak.
> > > >
> > > > I think that's one of the best things about America is that it's
> > the
> > > > only place where you can eat Italian food served by an African
> > waiter,
> > > > and cooked by ???????  etc.

Real Italian food is cooked by and served by Italian MEN. :o)



> > >
> > > Indeed.  My wife suggested maybe opening up a Ukrainian
> > > restaurant because she said that America lacked DECENT
> > > restaurants.

There are plenty of Ukrainian restaurants.

> >
> > I am Scottish, with one Russian offshoot, from my mother's side of the
> > family, and my mother makes Russian food.  Your alleged wife could
> > indeed open up a Ukrainian restaurant if there is none where you live.
> > Here, if I want good Russian food, there is a street fair every Tues.
> > It's very good.
>
> Oh really!  Where is this street fair, exactly?  Is it
> as real as your Kuwaiti friend and NRA card?
>
> > > > Indeed.  The first thing my wife observed was "American
> > > > > > > women sure are fat, aren't they?"
:-)  Such women
> > > > > > > really are going to convince these women
to abandon their
> > > > > > > values while patronizing them and insulting their
> > > > > > > birth cultures.  Yeah, the men really
need to worry! :-)
> > > > > >
> > >Actually, Mark...Russian brides want to fit right in with their
> >  American neighbors.  Women enjoy relationships with other women.
>
> While they wear their Levis made in Russia, yes? :-)
>
> > > My wife certainly has many women friends.  However,
> > > she gossips about them all the time with me about how
> > > she thinks one of them is snubbing her or about how the other
> > > looks down on her, or how she finds the politics of one
> > > loathsome.
> >
> > She may be experiencing some degree of homesickness, for her own girl
> > friends at home.  And, women like to talk about personal relationships,
> > not necessarily wanting your help, but rather using you as a sounding
> > board.
> > Besides, finding good friends is similar to love, you have to kiss a
> > lot of frogs before meeting the prince. ;-)
> >
> > > Meow baby!
> >
> > >?????
>
> It's not too difficult to figure out: I was pointing out
> that her friendships were no substitute for actual family.
>
> > > The one constant is that she wants to talk about all
> > > of them with me.  I'm not going to worry too much. :-)
> >
> > Why should you "worry" at all, Mark?  Are you that
insecure that, at
> > some point, she will see thru you?   After all, having friends is also
> > a good way to bounce things off of them, about you.  :-)

Females should NEVER talk about their husbands or boyfriends to other
females. Is that all you girls have to talk about?



>
> Indeed!  I needn't worry.  Thank you for pointing that out. :-)
>
> > > News flash: Sex and the City is a myth.  Women aren't
> > > all hugs and kisses with each other.  At least not
> > > on the surface.
> >
> > The idea of women having female friends is certainly NOT a myth, but
> > using your alleged wife as an example, may not be particularly
> > productive since it takes time to build friendships, and she left those
> > behind when she came here, at least on an everyday level.
>
> Ever hear of ICQ chat?  She checks up on them and visits
> them when we go back every half year or so.
>
> > I guess they'll need to put on some weight then and
> > > > > learn how to dress frumpy. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > Either that, or the thin Russian woman will encourage
the American
> > fat
> > > > woman to work out more.  But let's face it, Russian women come in
> > all
> > > > shapes and sizes as well.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but they aren't "supersized" as much as the
> > > liberated American gals. :-)

Of course there are overweight Russian females but I've never seen the gross
obesity you see in the US, especially out in Podunk.


> > >
> > > > And Americans are fatter than Europeans per
> > > > se, but that includes FAT MEN.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but we have bones to hang it on.  We don't lose
> > > our figure if we throw on an extra 20 lbs.
> > >
> > Sure you do, Mark.  Fat men are no more attractive than fat women no

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