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to: GERRIT KUEHN
from: DENNIS KATSONIS
date: 2020-12-09 21:09:00
subject: Re: systemd

-=> Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

 GK> Hello Dennis!

 GK> 08 Dec 20 21:54, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


 DK> Systemd isn't that bad.  It's much better than Lennart's pulseaudio,
 DK> now THAT sucks.

 GK> Tell me about it. OSS always worked fine for me. So did JACK.

 DK> I moved to Systed with Fedora in 2013 or so, and really, the only
 DK> four notable
 DK> differences was the system booted a little faster, shut down a lot
 DK> faster,  the
 DK> commands to start a service were slightly different, and the message
 DK> log was
 DK> accessed through journalctl.

 GK> As I said, this wholly depends on your use case. If you're running a
 GK> notebook, I totally see the benefit. However, I have mainly servers and
 GK> a few workstations to maintain. These are not booted for days, weeks or
 GK> even months, and they hardly ever change their network settings. If
 GK> they boot, hardware detection alone might take minutes, so I absolutely
 GK> don't care about saving a few seconds afterwards during boot. On the
 GK> other hand, from day one I had a hard time making systemd *not* causing
 GK> race conditions and actually wait for things that are required during
 GK> boot on these machines, especially network connections and remote
 GK> mounts.

 DK> but systemd was not that a big deal.

 GK> Your mileage may vary.

Indeed it may.  I've seen good criticism of it, and I don't really care either
way.  I guess for my use case, as a Linux "power user", it wasn't the worry it
was.


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