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- JF> "We"? I can have a discussion about race without getting JF> "hysterical". So can most people. Do you feel you can't? BK> I doubt you have ever in your life had a serious talk about BK> race. Not with anyone who didn't see things pretty much BK> the way you do. JF> I am sorry to hear about your doubts and your views JF> about this nation as a whole. BK> Esp since my views reflect reality. JF> You've only confirmed your ignorance here, Bob. BK> Oh? Tell us about all the discussions about race BK> Americans are having, between the races. JF> You mean like the one we're having now? Like the ones JF> we just had in this conf about using racist terms JF> like 'white trash'? BK> John, if you can't have those discussions with BK> black people they don't mean anything. You mean everything you've said here doesn't have meaning because you're not Black? Does that mean you object to all whites raving about the black plight to other whites? And if you feel race is a qualification for such debates, then isn't that racist also, Bob? JF> Most Americans, Black, White, etc, don't have this need JF> to discuss 'race', probably because for them, race is not JF> an issue. BK> If you believe race is not an issue for black people BK> you really don't know any black people very well. Since you are not black, by your own 'logic' you have no say here. And I've met a lot of blacks who are not consumed by history, are able to look forward and make something of themselves. If they come off with the 'perpetual victimhood...you owe me' attitude, people are going to look away. Amazing. BK> Why do you think so many black people were BK> so overwhelmed by Obama's election? Because many Blacks are racist and voted for him only because he's half white. BK> Why do you think so many said things like, "I never BK> thought I would live to see a black man become BK> president of the United States." Because they were hit over the head with racism so many times they grew up thinking most people hated them simply because of the color of their skin. They were induced with the notion that they were the only people ever subjected to racism, when all they have to do is look to China and africa to see the worst case scenarios of racism that still persist to this day. But we can't have that. That would upstage all the raving of activists in this country who must keep blacks angry and divided against whites to assure their own importance. That was the only reason Eric Holder, right after Obama was put into office by mostly white voters, came off with his divisive claim, calling an entire nation cowards of racial issues. Do you think he was referring to Blacks also, Bob? JF> And didn't you used to have a tag line that JF> read: 'Race is an idea whose time has passed'? BK> I still have it, and use it occasionally. Yes, and now, all of the sudden, race 'is' an issue, because after all, Eric Holder sez so. Which is it Bob? Is race an issue or not? JF> You have no idea who my friends are/were or anything JF> about certain members of my greater family. Your entire JF> line here is based on your own prejudices and ignorance. JF> Don't appreciate your assumptions, Mr. Klahn. BK> Then tell us about it. If you don't talk about BK> it all we have is inferences and assumptions. JF> That's right, Bob. That is all you have. BK> Then tell us, or you are just blowing smoke about BK> how you do have these discussions. JF> Don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. JF> Bob. And Holder's attempts to chide people into these JF> discussions was only another attempt to keep the nation JF> divided per democrat protocol. BK> Do you really believe keeping it buried is not BK dividing this country? It's not buried. That corpse has been dug up and re-hung so many times it stinks. BK> Do you really believe the divisions will go away if BK> the issues aren't discussed? Yes, I do, as there are so many positive things to look at. No one is saying forget the past, all I am saying is, don't focus on it and don't chide or try to intimidate people into such discussions. Holder is another racist jerk, a typical leftist agitator and worst of all, a hypocrite. BK> Above you said I have no idea who your family and frieds BK> are/were. I do know you don't have any close black friends or BK> relatives... Excuse me sir, you know no such things, today or yesterday, so I will politely ask you to back off in the personal/family department. Thanks. BK> ..not close enough to discuss these issues, or you BK> would know better than to say what you have. On the contrary, I've gotten several of these insights from Blacks, and your notion that all Blacks march to your drummer is yet another racist assertion you have wagered at Blacks. You should learn some day that many Blacks have their own minds and as such have a variety of views concerning their/our history. --- * ** Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 140/1 226/0 249/303 250/306 SEEN-BY: 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 280/1027 320/119 396/45 SEEN-BY: 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 105 SEEN-BY: 2905/0 @PATH: 123/140 500 261/38 633/260 267 |
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