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from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2007-03-07 12:14:02
subject: Re: Bushies coercion of Federal prosecutors

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

I'll accept the agreement  and not ask for any clarification 

"Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:45eee5d8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Well then we are in agreement.
>
> Gary
>
> Rich Gauszka wrote:
>> I accept the basic belief in the rule of law although their are far too
>> many laws in this society.  I also accept the principle of jury
>> nullification.. I just don't put my blinders on and accept the misuse of
>> law nor do I blindly follow the dictates of any political party
>>
>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> news:45eed04a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> If congress thinks its a bad law then congress can change the law.  Its
>>> the law and I thought you believed in the rule of law.  This is one of
>>> the rules in the law so deal with it.  Congressional approval of
>>> prosecutors is not something I'm all that concerned about.  The approval
>>> process is so laden with politics that anyone Bush appointed any interim
>>> replacement would be approved by a republican senate and most if not all
>>> would be approved by a democrat senate but only after a lot of preening
>>> and useless political grandstanding.  You seem to want the political
>>> grandstanding on prosecutors and I've had my fill of that over the past
>>> 30 years for supreme court appointments, so I don't really care if I get
>>> more of the same bullshit.
>>>
>>> However, right now its the law.  If congress didn't pass the law it
>>> wouldn't be the law.  In effect when the senate passed this legislation
>>> it gave blanket approval to every one of these replacements so in that
>>> very real sense each one of the replacements has the blessing and
>>> approval of congress by congress passing the law allowing this.
>>>
>>> I'm not as enamored of congress as much as you are.  The American people
>>> give them a lower approval rating that President Bush and always have.
>>> Why you are so anal about such a low priority just for the TV cameras
>>> bullshit approval from a group of dullards held in the lowest of esteem
>>> by the people is beyond me.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> Rich Gauszka wrote:
>>>> The problem is that these new cronies - err employees of Bush - are
>>>> being replaced with no oversight as the Patriot Act took out the 120
>>>> day limit. An easy way for a President to appoint
prosecutors that the
>>>> Senate will approve,  subsequently fire them and appoint
anyone else at
>>>> the President's choosing without the need for Senate
approval until a
>>>> new President is elected
>>>>
>>>> I see a problem with that no matter the administration -
think Hillary
>>>> and you may see my point clearer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:45ee40e3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> That's not something that's new Rich even if true. 
Prosecutors are
>>>>> employees of the President.  What employee doesn't
have to bend to the
>>>>> his boss's goals and desires.  This is as old as the
existence of the
>>>>> Country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Gauszka wrote:
>>>>>> Gary Britt wrote:
>>>>>>> Nope they will need Senate approval.  The law
only applies for
>>>>>>> interim appointments under certain conditions
until the next
>>>>>>> presidential election.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geo. wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:45edff97{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Eh, a bunch of nothing. He can fire
them at will and probably
>>>>>>>>> should have sooner. If the congress
didn't want whatever clause
>>>>>>>>> you're referring to in the PA, they
shouldn't have passed it that
>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hillary or Barack will be firing all
of them in less than 2 years
>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>> And appointing new ones without senate
approval apparently (how
>>>>>>>> comfortable will you be with that?).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>> Interim appointments that were conveniently
created because you fired
>>>>>> prosecutors who didn't bend to your whim.
>>

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