"Society" (Society{at}feminism.is.invalid) writes:
> "Andre Lieven"  wrote in message
> news:d0nql2$icl$1{at}theodyn.ncf.ca...
>>
>> Posted again [for Aggy's benefit]:
>>
>> "I believe that women have a capacity
>> for understanding and compassion which
>> a man structurally does not have, does not
>> have it because he cannot have it. He's
>> just incapable of it." -- Former Congresswoman
>> Barbara Jordan
>>
>> "All men are rapists and that's all they are"
>> -- Marilyn French, Author, "The Women's Room"
>
> Gee, Andre, you've made Aggy upset by
> demonstrating that you know more about
> the feminist faith she zealously follows than
> SHE does!

Indeed. Feminists hate facts that show them up
to be ignorant rubes and boobs.

> Because Aggy has demonstrated that her
> feminist logic is reducible to no more than
> schoolyard taunts of "no it isn't" or their
> equivalent on her part, we can add childish
> behavior on the part of feminist women of
> Aggy's ilk to the long list of reasons "why
> feminist career women will never be equal
> to men".  Or to non-feminist career women,
> for that matter!

Indeed. Not to mention the usual " you can't
get any ", and failing to grasp that " the plural
of 'anecdote' is NOT 'citation'. "

The list of their failings is a loooong one...

> Sheesh.
>
>> "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable
>> and viable political act, that the oppressed
>> have a right to class-hatred against the
>> class that is oppressing them."
>> -- Robin Morgan, MS. Magazine Editor
>
> Hmmm.  First Ms. Morgan endorses man-
> hating as part of the feminist belief system.
> Second, she pulls out of her *ss the false
> belief that women are not the oppressor class
> and men aren't her "oppressed".  Still, it's con-
> venient of her to have written such a moral
> blank cheque to men that may be drawn on the
> accounts of feminists like Aggy!  Heh heh.

Yep. 

>> "I claim that rape exists any time sexual
>> intercourse occurs when it has not been
>> initiated by the woman, out of her own
>> genuine affection and desire."
>> -- Robin Morgan
>
> Hmmm.  Clearly _ueberfeministin und frauleiterin_
> Robin Morgan is flashing her sexist colors!  And
> she shows Aggy the sexism that is at the core of
> feminism in so many ways such as Ms. Morgan's
> crack being pregnant with the premises that only
> women can be raped and women themselves
> are somehow incapable of raping men and would
> never do that, besides.  Then there's the clearly
> sexist belief on the feminist Ms. Morgan's part
> that only the woman gets to decide what's rape
> and what isn't.

Talk about control freakiness..

> The sexism of feminists would be clearer were
> the sex-roles reversed:
>
>    I claim that theft exists any time paying
>    for a date occurs when it has not been
>    initiated by the man, out of his own
>    genuine affection and desire.
>    -- Robin Morgan

Well done. Yes, " turn about is fair play ".

And, Feminists *hate* fairness.

> Ms. Morgan's sexism also extends to the
> misogyny that is implicit in feminism, in this
> case the belief that feminists (of all sexes)
> have that women are weak-willed and
> easily swayed by the stronger will of any
> man that is present.  In Ms. Morgan's mind,
> the woman doesn't have the same capacity
> for free will that any man has, oh no, for
> Ms. Morgan's kind of woman to exercise
> free will, she has to really, really will to do
> something -- simply choosing to go along
> isn't enough to meet the feminist test of
> free will for a woman because her weaker-
> than-a-man's will may be easily swept away
> by his more powerful mental energy.
> Really, that's what feminists believe -- they're
> not called neo-Victorians for nuthin'!

Indeed. Its amazing that Feminism is misandry *and*
misogyny, at the same time.

>> "And let's put one lie to rest for all time:
>> the lie that men are oppressed, too,
>> by sexism--the lie that there can be such
>> a thing as 'men's liberation groups.'
>
> Ahem.  This is a common trick feminists like
> Aggy use to hypnotize themselves into ignoring
> all the evidence that if anyone is "oppressed"
> it's men, not women: When the truth of
> women's privileged status begins to leak
> out, feminists yell "lie!" and try to drown
> out those who speak the truth.

You've been reading the howls of complaint
from the alt.support.marriage femilickers,
then ? :-)

> Do feminists
> bother to provide evidence for their asser-
> tions that can't be easily refuted by obvious
> facts?  No.  The use of Big Lie tactics by
> feminists is one of many reasons why the
> label 'feminazi' fits feminists so well.

Exactly.

>> [continued] "Oppression is something that
>> one group of people commits against another
>> group, specifically because of a 'threatening'
>> characteristic shared by the latter group--
>> skin color, sex or age, etc.
>
> The penis is seen by feminists as exactly
> that sort of "'threatening' characteristic shared
> by those who are the target of their sexist
> hate: men.

Not to mention their obsession with what they
haven't got, and cannot get a man to give them,
due to their sheer harridan-ness...

>    Man's discovery that his genitalia could serve
>    as a weapon to generate fear must rank as
>    one of the most important discoveries of
>    prehistoric times...
>
>    Susan Brownmiller
>   Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape, p. 5
>
> In other quotes you've provided that so upset
> Aggy that she can't bear to even acknowledge
> them, Andre, her other feminist true believer
> cohorts include testosterone and the Y chromosome
> in their list of "'threatening' characteristic(s) shared"
> by those whom feminists propagandize against.

Well, Craggy is an ignorant troll. IOW, a well trained
Feminist.

>> [continued] "The oppressors are indeed
>> FUCKED UP by being masters, but those
>> masters are not OPPRESSED.  Any master
>> has the alternative of divesting himself
>
> Correction: "herself".

Yep.

>> of sexism or racism--the oppressed have
>> no alternative--for they have no power--
>> but to fight.
>
> Men as a class have "no power", not even
> "to fight".  If men were able to fight, would
> Aggy be so glib about suggesting that men
> ought to fight blah blah like Aggy (falsely)
> claims women do?

Kinda hard to claim that men have all the power,
thentell men get power, if you don't like things...

>> [continued] "In the long run, Women's
>> Liberation will of course free men--
>
> In the Keynesian long run, that is, the long
> run in which we're all dead!  In any feminist's
> lifetime, tho', freeing men from the oppression
> of women isn't ever on the To Do list of any
> feminist.  Do I ever see feminists demanding
> to be drafted into combat?  No.  Instead,
> there's plenty of evasion by feminists on that
> topic followed by attempts to change the
> subject and the occasional yelp of "lie!" (as
> noted above) to distract from the truth that
> virtually all feminists (and their fellow woman-
> firsters, the traditionalists) are quite happy
> to keep men oppressed and in harness for
> the service of women's class interests.

As is also shown by the fact that women simply
refuse to take on an equal amount of doing the
most dangerous jobs.

>> [continued] "but in the short run it's going to
>> cost men a lot of privilege, which no one
>> gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT
>> the fault of women--kill your fathers, not
>> your mothers." -- Robin Morgan
>
> Women certainly don't wish to give up their
> privileges "willingly or easily."

Indeed, more Feminist " do as I say, *not* as
I *do*. "...

> And the class
> hatred of Ms. Morgan would be obvious if
> the slavery she was defending was black
> slavery instead of man slavery and she had
> barked at one of her feminist rallies: "Slavery
> is not the fault of slaveowners, kill your blacks
> not your whites."

Yep: Proof that Feminists attempts to latch
onto the coat tails of people who had *real*
civil rights grievances is pure deceit.

>> "My feelings about men are the result
>> of my experience. I have little sympathy
>> for them. Like a Jew just released from
>> Dachau, I watch the handsome young
>> Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground
>> with a bullet in his stomach and I look
>> briefly and walk on. I don't even need to
>> shrug. I simply don't care. What he was,
>> as a person, I mean, what his shames
>> and yearnings were, simply don't matter."
>> -- Marilyn French, in "The Women's Room"
>
> 'Tis sneakily clever of the feminazi to hide
> her true self by trying to disguise herself
> as somehow equivalent to the Jews being
> exterminated by Nazis.  However, just as
> some Nazis openly preached extermination
> of the targets of their birth-group hatreds,
> some feminists have openly announced their
> desire to exterminate the feminists' hated
> birth-group: men, and little to nothing to
> the contrary is said by the great bulk of
> feminism's followers.

Proves that, when comparing men to Feminists,
its the latter who fill the role of fascist...

>> "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure,
>> formalized expression of contempt for
>> women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
>
> One could just as easily claim that it's
> contempt for men's bodies, which goes
> to show how baseless the claims of
> feminists are.  Sheesh.

And, wholly one sided, thus blowing Feminism's
claims to be anything other than a birth group
special interest "gimme" lobby.

>> "In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual
>> intercourse is rape because women, as a
>> group, are not strong enough to give meaningful
>> consent," said Catherine MacKinnon in
>> Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from
>> the Strange World of Women's Studies.
>
> Here, not only is Catherine MacKinnon another
> feminist preaching the misogynist belief that
> women are naturally weak-willed but she's
> also confused about sex.  Sex does not need
> the consent of "women as a group" -- unless
> it's group sex!  ;-)

LOL ! Indeed. Shall women give their right to
choose or decline sex to a Royal Commisssion ?
Insanity, 'tis truely Feminism !

>> [remainder of the long list of examples
>> of hate speech by feminists snipped for space]
> --
>    All excuses for feminism depend on lies.

Yep. The rabid and loony asm-ers ought to figure that
out...

Andre


--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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