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echo: rberrypi
to: GARETH EVANS
from: PANCHO
date: 2021-01-04 21:57:00
subject: Re: AI and decompilation?

On 04/01/2021 17:51, gareth evans wrote:
> On 04/01/2021 13:08, Pancho wrote:
>> On 04/01/2021 11:00, gareth evans wrote:
>>> Thinking back to my first job, nearly 50 years ago now,
>>> when I had to dis-assemble DEC's paper tape BASIC
>>> interpreter in order to enhance it, I guess that
>>> dis-assemblers and decompilers must now be ten-a-penny,
>>> especially for programs running under Windows where
>>> the structure of Windows programs is well-known with
>>> an assumption that C was the source language?
>>>
>>> But I wonder if Artificial Intelligence could, after
>>> being fed with numerous instruction sets, take a
>>> block of binary, and analyse its source without
>>> any prior knowledge of the instruction set?
>>>
>>> I am particularly interested in the Binary Blob
>>> provided for Raspberry Pi computers, with a view to
>>> getting detailed knowledge of the video processors
>>> employed therein.
>>>
>> I think a lot of the problem is defining the question.
>>
>> What do you want it to do?
>>
>
> I don't want it to do anything. I want to play at a low level
> with the thing ... large oaks from little acorns grow.
>

Play with what thing? What is an instruction set, what is the Binary
Blob? Why do you need an AI?

Most compilers leave fingerprints on executables you don't need an AI to
detect them. I remember decompiling in the early 80's but complex modern
code can often be a challenge to naively reverse engineer a high level
understanding from even if you do have source code. Take away sensible
variable and function names and you are stuffed.

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