From: Adam Flinton 

Mark wrote:
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
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>>"Geo"  wrote in message
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>>>"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
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>>>>Just how in the hell do you think they find their recruits
Mark ? How do
>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>>think they indoctrinate them  ? Go in and start yelling
BLOW SOMEONE UP
>>>>?
>>>>Since you say this is 'lame BS' then you tell me how the fanatics are
>>>>recruited ? How they become fundamentalist Moslems then fanatics ?
>>>
>>>It's simple, first you find a bunch of pissed off people then you tell
>>>them
>>>who they are REALLY pissed off at then you show them how to get back at
>>>those people who pissed them off.
>>>
>>>it's got nothing to do with helping anyone.
>>>
>>>Geo.
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>>>
>>
>>So why don't we have a lot of bombings here. I mean we have a lot of
>>pissed off people who reject that sort of thing.
>>
>>The important thing is to be seen as helping the locals, gain their trust
>>otherwise you're just another outsider. Yes along the way you blame the
>>current conditions on someone else and use that but unless you have gained
>>some trust it won't work. First a toehold then a foothold etc.
>>
>>How will you find the pissed off people ? How many Afghans would have
>>admitted to being pissed off at the Taliban while they were in power ? Do
>>you think you could have gone in and found them ?
>>
>>All I'm saying is that the Fundamentalist are building a movement. They
>>start with the 'helping' then tighten up with the teaching.
>>
>>Look at the growth of Islamic fundamentalism closely. Which come first the
>>bombs or the Mosques and schools ?
>
>
> Okay, I think I understand better where you're coming from (I thought you
> were supporting what some congresswoman was spouting about bin Laden
> building hospitals and roads and such). It basically goes to the repressive
> governments in the region which by default allows the fundamentalists to
> offer an alternative "vision" since the individual, by himself, cannot
> express himself in any way other than the government way.

Not completely true. They feel that their gov is powerless in the world.
Can/has the Saudi gov done anything about Palestine? Could they stand up to
the complete US support for Israel or do they (even as an absolutist
monarchy) give in & accept that as a given in return for a "quiet
life"
& gold encrusted palaces.

> The governments
> too, are happy to encourage it, or at least look the other way, as long as
> the direction of the hatred is deflected from them.
>

Yup. So are you.

> I don't have any ready reference, but the stats I've seen show that the
> typical suicide bomber is not poverty stricken, but rather is from a middle
> to upper middle class background.
>
>

I don't think there is a "typical suicide bomber".

Adam

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