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> I read your post and did not see one example of socialism.  I did see some
> examples of public utilities. Don't know about where you live but here I
> get billed for using them.  If I don't pay the bills, they get cut off,
just
> like a private utility would.

A point I made decades ago was if you think you have a right to water,
try not paying your water bill.  (Of course, *I* don't get a water bill,
I have a well out in the corn field behind the house ).  But the
same is true for electricity, and try walking out of the supermarket with
a cartload of groceries you didn't pay for because you have a 'right' to
them.
 
> Most of the others, but maybe not all, are examples of infrastructure.  I
> know there are some out there that are so anti-government that they don't
> even believe that a central government should be involved in those.  For
> me, that is the one of the things that I think a central government, and
> taxes, are for.

Just remember that there's nothing done in the private sector of the
economy that the government cannot do - half as well for five times the
cost.