You might want to try it, too.

(Time to go enjoy the Paul Johnson video, again.
....Sure do love to see a blubbering baby redneck breaking down under
pressure..... :D



Spectre wrote:
> That Mossadegh guy was a real a-hole - lucky we got rid of him quick.
>
> Turin wrote:
>
> > You might want to try correlating that a little bit better.....
> >
> >
> > George wrote:
> >
> >>You forget the Iran/Iraq war with one million deaths.
> >>You forget the uncivillized Iranian behavior of raiding an Embassy
> >
> > and
> >
> >>keeping foreigners captive.
> >>
> >>
> >>"Turin"  wrote in message
> >>news:1110580027.923380.80690{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>>Ahh ...it's good to see yet another nation asserting it's nuclear
> >>>sovereignty.  Bush the Wimp has backed down again.  Thank you,
> >
> > Iran.
> >
> >>>Our rogue, corporate slavemasters, sitting in their regime
> >
> > government,
> >
> >>>are looking ever more like the pathetic liars they are.
> >>>
> >>>Risk comes with freedom.  I would rather take my chances in a
> >
> > free-er,
> >
> >>>more dangerous world, where everyone wears a gun on the hip, than
> >
> > one
> >
> >>>filled with willing slaves who idiotically chant the word as they
> >
> > walk
> >
> >>>between endless metal detectors.
> >>>
> >>>You can't subordinate others into helpless non-resistance and have
> >>>either freedom or democracy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The U.S. is primarily made up of a bunch of rationalizing asshole
> >>>moderates who lie to themselves from one day to the next in an
> >
> > endless
> >
> >>>blame game.  Take your chances, you pitiful fucking cowards.  At
> >
> > this
> >
> >>>point, the country is simply sitting on it's laurels.  It's size
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>it's resources are the only things holding it together.
> >>>
> >>>That's why it feels threatened by stronger (per individual), but
> >>>smaller (per country) nations, and tries to weaken them as well.
> >>>
> >>>(But, without giving up it's own advantages as part of the
> >
> > "agreement"
> >
> >>>...hahaha, now who the fuck is really going to accept THOSE
> >
> > one-sided
> >
> >>>terms?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Let's weed out the weak (the liberal), and the sedentary (the
> >>>conservative).  Let's PUNISH WEAKNESS.
> >>>
> >>>Otherwise, the weakling becomes your master.  The weakling is far
> >
> > more
> >
> >>>vicious in her/his capriciousness than is the strong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>FUCK the weak.
> >>>
> >>>Fuck the "protector" of the weak.
> >>>
> >>>...They bring us all down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>- - -
> >>>
> >>>The face of an angel, the charm of the devil:
> >>>
> >>>Turin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I have such sites to show you...
> >>>------------------------
> >>>http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
> >>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Men_First/
> >>>------------------------
> >>>
> >>>"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth
with, deleteth,
> >
> > or
> >
> >>>maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known
> >
> > shall
> >
> >>>burn in hell forever and ever...."
> >>>
> >>>-----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050311/pl_nm/nuclear_iran_usa_dc
> >
> >>>
> >>>U.S. Backs Economic Incentives for Iran
> >>>
> >>>By Carol Giacomo and Arshad Mohammed
> >>>
> >>>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States, in a policy shift,
> >
> > offered
> >
> >>>Iran (news - web sites) economic incentives to abandon its
> >
> > suspected
> >
> >>>pursuit of nuclear weapons, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
> >
> > (news -
> >
> >>>web sites) told Reuters on Friday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rice said in an interview the decision to allow Iran to begin
talks
> >>>join the World Trade Organization (news - web sites) and to
> >
> > consider
> >
> >>>letting it buy civilian airline parts gave Britain, France and
> >
> > Germany
> >
> >>>"more cards to play" in their negotiations to
stop what Washington
> >>>regards as Iran's push for the atomic bomb.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The U.S. decision marks a major policy shift by Washington, which
> >
> > had
> >
> >>>previously refused to offer such incentives to Iran. It was
matched
> >
> > by
> >
> >>>a Europe decision to shift its approach and support referring Iran
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>the U.N. Security Council if it resumes uranium enrichment or
> >
> > breaches
> >
> >>>nuclear commitments.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"This is giving to the Europeans more cards to play in their
> >>>negotiations with the Iranians," Rice said. "This is about
unifying
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>international community so that it's the Iranians who are
isolated,
> >
> > not
> >
> >>>the United States."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Washington had effectively blocked Tehran from joining the WTO and
> >
> > from
> >
> >>>importing aircraft parts with substantial U.S. content, making
U.S.
> >>>support vital if Iran is to get either benefit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The united approach marks a milestone in efforts to curb what
> >>>Washington believes is Iran's attempt to develop nuclear arms.
Iran
> >
> > has
> >
> >>>denied it is seeking atomic weapons and has said its civilian
> >
> > nuclear
> >
> >>>program is for peaceful power generation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"The Europeans have a strategy which is to show the
Iranians that
> >
> > if
> >
> >>>they are prepared to live up to their international obligations
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>is an alternative path to confrontation and ... a path to a better
> >>>future," Rice said.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>While deeply skeptical the European diplomacy will work, U.S.
> >
> > officials
> >
> >>>have said they want to give it the best chance of success and to
> >>>insulate themselves from blame if it fails.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>'NOT REWARDING THE IRANIANS'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rice denied the U.S. decision marked a policy shift, reflecting a
> >>>general Bush administration reluctance to acknowledge when it has
> >>>changed tack, or that offering Iran tangible benefits amounted to
> >
> > any
> >
> >>>reward.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"We are supporting that diplomacy but this is most assuredly
giving
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>Europeans a stronger hand, not rewarding the
Iranians," she added.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>In their own statement, Britain, France and Germany made no
> >
> > reference
> >
> >>>to any deadline by which they might seek to refer the matter to
the
> >>>U.N. Security Council nor did they offer to support any U.S. call
> >
> > for
> >
> >>>U.N. sanctions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rice also gave no indication on how long the United States will
let
> >>>European negotiations go on, whether it would set a deadline for
> >>>referral to the Security Council, or whether it would push for
> >>>sanctions if the matter goes there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Negotiations ... create a particular dynamic to
which you have to
> >>>respond. I don't think it's time to talk about what we'll do when
> >
> > we go
> >
> >>>to the Security Council," Rice said. Asked about U.N.
sanctions,
> >
> > she
> >
> >>>replied "We will cross that bridge when we get to it."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>In June 2004, Washington changed its approach on North Korea (news
> >
> > -
> >
> >>>web sites) by offering Pyongyang security guarantees if it
abandons
> >
> > its
> >
> >>>suspected nuclear arms programs. Previously, Washington had said
> >
> > would
> >
> >>>not offer Pyongyang any "quid pro quo" to do so.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rice said the U.S. decision to offer Iran incentives was in part
an
> >>>effort to focus the debate on whether or not Tehran will stop its
> >>>alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Part of the problem over the last several months has been that
the
> >>>focus has been too much on what the United States would do or what
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>Europeans are offering," she said.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"When really the issue is -- are the Iranians prepared to
> >
> > demonstrate
> >
> >>>that they are willing to live up to their international
obligations
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>not seek a nuclear weapon under guise of civilian nuclear
> >
> > programs?,"
> >
> >>>she added.
> >>>
> >>>"We will now see whether the Iranians are really serious about
> >
> > living
> >
> >>>up to their international obligations," she said.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - - -
> >
> > Always an enlightening moment, with:
> >
> > Turin
> >
> >
> > I have such sites to show you...
> > ------------------------
> > http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
> > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Men_First/
> > ------------------------
> >
> > "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth,
or
> > maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known
shall
> > burn in hell forever and ever...."
> > 
> > -----
> >



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