On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:16:15 -0600, USA  wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:28:11 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
> wrote:
>
>>I was thinking myself that if either Condoleeza Rice or Hillary
>>Clinton or any woman became president, it's quite possible that the
>>government would subsidize or otherwise actively promote
>>gender-selection abortion, targeting males for extinction and that
>>behind a pink iron curtain, mass butcheries would begin.
>
>Interesting theory. What's your reasoning behind this? 



1) the fact that sex-selective abortion DOES take place on a mass
scale in China - though it's female infants that are at risk in rural
China.  

But I'm just using that as an example that gender-selective abortion
on a large scale is not unheard of.

Presumably, the Chinese government did not INTEND to eradicate female
infants through its population control measures - this is just how
many rural Chinese families chose to comply with such measures.


2) The obvious fact that, in the West, male lives are not regarded as
worthwhile and valuable to the same extent that female lives are - and
often aren't regarded as valuable at all.

All that talk about the pending extinction of the Y chromosome - and,
in general, the diminution of male authority, male prestige, etc.


3) While male leaders often pander shamelessly to females, I just
think that with a woman president, there would be more energy placed
behind the scheme to eradicate males - especially under some
Century/Millennium of the Woman theme.




>>On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:03:20 GMT, "MCP"

>>wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1066&date=20050308
>>>
>>>Published: 8th March 2005 14:06 BST+1
>>>
>>>It would have been hard not to notice that Tuesday was
International Women's
>>>Day. No fewer than two new networks were launched by prominent
politicians
>>>and the long-awaited rumours of Gudrun Schyman's feminist party have been
>>>officially announced as... rumours.
>>>
>>>Dagens Industri reported that Schyman will launch her Feminist party in
>>>April. Schyman herself, who has two speaking appearances today,
insists she
>>>will not present a Feminist party - yet.
>>>
>>>Meanwhile, the Social Democratic party secretary Marita Ulvskog
and former
>>>EU minister Margareta Winberg have announced their own feminist network,
>>>called Feministas.
>>>
>>>"We women do not experience Sweden as an egalitarian,
mature society. That's
>>>why we must fight for a feminist emphasis in politics,"
said Ulvskog and
>>>Winberg via Aftonbladet.
>>>
>>>"We want to take back the official space. We want the same
rights and have
>>>the same respect as men do in this society. If laws are necessary, well,
>>>then we demand them," they continued.
>>>
>>>Feministas has launched its own web page today. They say they
want to drive
>>>the debate on salaries, domestic violence, girls in schools and
even health
>>>care issues.
>>>
>>>"Even when we're sick we're not treated as women,"
they write on their web
>>>site.
>>>
>>>But Feministas founder Marita Ulvskog does not believe in a
Feminist party.
>>>
>>>"That would be a disaster for women," she told
Göteborgs-Posten. She said
>>>women would leave the Social Democrats, the Greens and the Left Party in
>>>favor of a Feminist party.
>>>
>>>"Then the Conservatives and Christian Democrats could
simply take over
>>>politics and women's issues," she said.
>>>
>>>Prime minister Göran Persson agreed. Speaking on a visit to
Malmö, he said
>>>he saw it as a serious threat to the ruling socialist coalition.
>>>
>>>"It would undermine the conditions for both the Greens and
the Left party to
>>>have a place in parliament," he said.
>>>
>>>"Then we would quickly find ourselves in a situation where we have a
>>>government which works directly against the objectives of a
feminist party."
>>>
>>>But it's not just the socialists who used International Women's Day as a
>>>springboard for a new network. Christian Democrat Maria Larsson has
>>>presented her own network, Kvinnobloggen.se, the 'women's
blog'. She says it
>>>'s an alternative to Feministas and Gudrun Schyman.
>>>
>>>"Equality is not a Left issue," she said.
>>>
>>>Indeed, if a page three special in Metro is anything to go by, there are
>>>left feminists, right feminists, media feminists, denim
feminists and many
>>>more.
>>>
>>>"What type of feminist are you?" asked the paper.
Perhaps you're a
>>>"post-colonial feminist", trying to move away from
the notion of feminism as
>>>a white, heterosexual, western movement and acknowledging that ethnicity,
>>>sexuality and age are just as important on the equality agenda.
>>>
>>>If that all sounds a bit wishy-washy and you find yourself raging against
>>>sexist advertising and men's violence against women then you're
probably a
>>>"radical feminist".
>>>
>>>And if you happen to be of the view that men get a bit of a raw deal too,
>>>being discriminated against in, for example, the childcare sector, then
>>>you're an "equalist".
>>>
>>>Sources: Dagens Nyheter, Svenska Dagbladet, Metro






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