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| subject: | Re: If ` free will ` were true, Jesus would have had it too, being quit |
From: "arah" My dear Old Man Joe Jesus was born by the Virgin Mary without a father and Christian called him Son of God but Adam does not have any father or even a mother so Adam should also to be called son of God. Do you agree with me? Cheers On Mar 23, 6:00 am, old man joe wrote: > "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own > ( thelema ) will, but the ( thelema ) will of Him who sent Me. " > Joh. 6:38 > > so says Apostle John as he puts to use the Bible word " thelema "... > to express the purpose of heart by deliberate choice. > > he uses this word ' thelema ' by inspiration of the Holy Spirit to > describe that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior unto salvation has > absolutely nothing to do with the " thelema " of man in Joh. 1:13 > > because John, as the rest, knew that otherwise, salvation is by good > works and not by grace. he knew one doesn't work to get graced by God > because " it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who > runs, but on God who has mercy. " Ro. 9:16 > > Luke understood unconditional election and records that as soon as > Jesus broached the subject He was taken out of the synagogue to be > thrown over a cliff. Lk. 4:14-29 > > such is the case with all those even today who seek to control > God... allowing no one to enter God's kingdom through grace alone > apart from works, since they themselves have not entered His rest. > > salvation by works controls people. people who preach salvation by > the free will of man seek to control people by controlling the Lord, > allowing Him to have a distant part in His own plan of salvation... > and allowing no person who hasn't fulfilled all the conditions the > free will, not grace preachers have placed on their kind of ' grace. ' > > ******************************************* > > when the Son of God walked the earth proving Himself to be God > Eternal by His many wonderful attesting miracles, He made it perfectly > clear that He was under complete subjection to the " thelema "... will > of the Father as John illustrates. > > yet, He was also born of a woman... so much so was Jesus of the > human family as well as being Eternal God that His neighbors viewed > Him as no one out of the ordinary. Mt. 13:55 > > His face did not shine as Moses did after talking with Jesus > on Mount Sinai ( Ex. 34:29 ) He never appeared to anyone during His > earthly ministry as He did from the Glory Cloud in the Old Testament > as in Ex. 16:10 et al > > Jesus was under subjection to the " thelema " of the Father during > His earthly ministry. Joh. 6:38 > > in like manner, those called to witness the glory of the Lord as > they proclaim His righteousness, and not their own, remember that they > are created unto good works and not because of good works. Eph. 2:10 > > the elect of God are given a stewardship to speak the truth of God > and not to filter it as to preach to itching ears. the elect are to > preach the hard doctrines as well, of grace, calling, election, > repentance from sin, foreknowledge, predestination, and slave hood to > Jesus Christ. > > slave hood to Jesus Christ is not some highly desirable thing the > unbeliever jumps at the chance to do of his imaginary free will. > ( Joh. 6:65,66 ) but he must instead be dragged to Christ... > > " No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws > ( drags ) him " Joh. 6:44 > > the free will of unbelievers, whether they name the Name of Christ > by giving " feigned obedience unto Him " ( Ps. 66:3 ) or just be > outright God haters, they're completely under the control of Satan, > their good shepherd. Joh. 8:44; Eph. 2:2; 1 Joh. 5:19 > > just as Jesus did not preach freedom from but slave hood to God and > lived His earthly life accordingly, so too, those elected by grace > glorify the Lord God above in word and action. and not themselves here > below... > > for salvation never was by the " thelema " of man. Joh. 1:13 > > ******************************************* > > the will worshipers simply seek to control salvation. there > theology is built around it. there lives devoted to it. they seek to > control because they themselves are controlled. Eph. 2:1-3; > Joh. 8:44; 2 Tim 2:26 > > they speak of man and the things of man. they speak of conditions > because in conditions lie control. the is no control over whom God > will grace. they hate this. > > ***************************************************************** > > " and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed." > Acts 13:48 --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) SEEN-BY: 633/267 5030/786 @PATH: 261/38 123/500 379/1 633/267 |
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