On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:56:41 -0500, Mark Sobolewski
 wrote:

>In article ,
> Grizzlie Antagonist  wrote:
>
>> On 12 Mar 2005 13:28:42 -0800, "Hyerdahl"
 wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
>> >> On 12 Mar 2005 10:36:34 -0800, maceanruig{at}astound.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Beauray Rippy wrote:
>> >> >> Thousands Compete, Shay, Rhines Win 2005 River Run
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Local - WJXT News4Jax.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jacksonville Fla - Mar  12, 2005...More than
9,000 runners, a
>> >field
>> >> >> that includes some of the world's finest runners and seven
>> >Olympians
>> >> >> -- hit the pavement this morning in the 28th
annual Gate River Run
>> >> >and
>> >> >> related events.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ryan Shay, 25, of East Jordan, Mich., crossed
the finish line at
>> >> >> 43:27, to win the race. Although seeded 16th, he
beat last year's
>> >> >> runner-up and this year's favorite, Alan Culpepper, 32, of
>> >Lafayette,
>> >> >> Colo., by about six seconds.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "I wanted to keep pushing the pace up
front, and mile by mile,
>> >start
>> >> >> separating people out," Shay said. "I
was hoping it was going to
>> >be
>> >> >> just me and Alan and someone else at the top of
the bridge, and
>> >then
>> >> >> let it all go down the hill. It all paid off."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jen Rhines, of Ardmore, Penn., was the first
woman across the
>> >finish
>> >> >> line. But despite the top women getting a
five-minute "equalizer"
>> >> >head
>> >> >> start, she could not hold on to beat the top men
in the field.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 			****
>> >> >>
>> >> >> With a FIVE MINUTE HEAD START a female Olympian
runner can't
>> >compete
>> >> >> with 'average' men runners. I don't know how
BADLY she was beaten
>> >but
>> >> >> they didn't even post her time.  
>> >> >
>> >> >Sounds like you can't get a date and need to take it out on the
>> >women.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Wow!  That's sure a profound response.  And it sounds
like you can't
>> >> get a date either and need to take it out on someone else.
>> >>
>> >> Don't even bother to argue that point.  That is just as valid an
>> >> assumption about you as it is about anyone against anyone who you
>> >> would argue with while using that non sequitur.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >And do try to read better since the story doesn't say
what you say.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Yes, as a matter of fact, that IS more or less what it says.
>> >
>> >
>> >Actually, it says less.  First, it does not say whether or not the
>> >female runner was on par with the top male runners or the
"average" as
>> >he suggested.  Secondly, there's no reason to expect a woman to compete
>> >with a man in running since men's legs are longer;  women traditionally
>> >compete in their own venue and the women who win are just as fit, for
>> >their venue, as are the men for theirs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well then, Puke, why do you believe that men should be treated as
>> inferior just because they can't gestate?
>> 
>> Apply your logic about running to reproduction.  Men can't gestate,
>> but they can procreate.  So men are just as sexually fit for their
>> venue as women are for theirs.
>
>And in most ways, more fit since men don't risk their
>life to procreate



Well, if you remember, she thinks that's a point in HER favor.


> nor do they face age restrictions.  
>
>regards,
>Mark Sobolewski



Well, age doesn't exactly make it easier to complete the act - but
it's true that if you can complete the act with a woman of
child-bearing age, you can sire children.



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