"Lee"  wrote in message
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>
> Aggy wrote:
> > MCP wrote:
> > > "Aggy"  wrote in message
> > > news:AeAYd.72$3a.37{at}newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > >> Have you even looked for them, dear? By looking I involve getting
> > >> off your arse and doing some research that isn't based on
> statistics
> > >> on a web page; something anyone can compose, dear.
>
> How about this fact.
>
> I know 4 programmers at an un-named monopolistically-challeged OS
> manufacturer near Seattle, Washington.
>
> The percentage of men who work as programmers and software engineers,
> not sales, or marketing, or accounting, is near 80%.  These are the
> people who do the actual work that makes 95% of the worlds pc's
> function.
80 % is not 'all', dear. 95% is not 'all', dear. 99.99999999999999999% is
not 'all', dear. even if 1% of all programmers were women then that means
there are women programmer but do tell, what has this got to do with women's
rights?
>
> It is a well-known and given, to anyone with any experience or
> intellect (which your arrogance replaces with allusion, and nothing
> more, in all of your posts)
Your hypocrisy is showing, dear.
>fact that this is so in the IT field.
> Overwhelming numbers of men.
Yes, dear, and?
>
> One of my friends who got a job there, and he is average for this firm,
> scored the highest math score for the country of Canada for the year he
> graduated High School.  These men are very smart and gifted coders,
> every one.
Who said they weren't, dear?
>
> It doesn't take affirmative action, or even a degree to develop your
> own software business.  Buy a PC or 2 or 3.  Get 2 or 3 friends to help
> you get the business going.  Work 18 hour days for 5 - 7 years (This is
> where women fall flat.  There is no work/life balance if you want to
> succeed at this level. Pay your dues, or accede to those who do...) and
> you will likely have a going concern.  This is how Quake, SimCity,
> Amazon and Micro-soft all started.  Look at the picture of Micro-Soft
> ca. 1978.  9 men 2 women.  Andrea wrote manuals and Marla was the
> bookkeeper.  The men all wrote code, lots of it.

I appreciate what you are trying to say dear but its a question of
priorities. I work for a living (I won't say where or what I do) but that's
it. My husband and I work to live, we don't live to work. We pay our bills,
bail our son out when he needs it and we afford a few luxuries. 8 hours days
do us, dear. 8 hours work, 8 hours pleasure, 8 hours sleep. It's what we
call a full life.if you wish to pull 18 hours shifts then that's your choice
and I don't begrudge you of it but like I said, it's a question of
priorities!

> Where are the girls who are coding new browsers at 14?
some of them populate 20% of your workforce apparently, dear.

Aggy




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