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from: Grizzlie Antagonist griz
date: 2005-03-12 04:57:00
subject: Re: Hyerdung Is A Lonely Bitter Freak

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:00:13 GMT, "Avenger"
 wrote:

>Why would anyone post under a dozen names 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? If
>no one argues with this Hyerdahl thing it will argue with one of its
>multiple personalities. Hyerdung is a wacko with an inferiority
>complex(understandable) and envies anyone with a penis. It's obvious. Maybe
>her bitterness comes from not getting roller skates from her Grandpappy on
>Christmas but I think she's just a bad seed. A freak of nature. Ignore it.



I tried to organize a boycott of Puke years ago, but it fell through.






>
>"Viking"  wrote in message
>news:9sm4319gc0iu1pedp4bk85sj10fj33ic94{at}4ax.com...
>>
>>                                   The Hyerdahl FAQ
>>                                     Version 1.2
>>
>> You may have noted a poster named Hyerdahl.
>> Who is Hyerdahl?
>> How does Hyerdahl work?
>> How do you deal with Hyerdahl?
>> Read on.
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Who is Hyerdahl?
>>
>> Hyderdahl is a long-time contrarian poster on soc.men. However, her
>> agenda is not, as it might first appear, either feminism or a rational
>> discussion of issues. Her agenda, as most posters have realized over
>> years of dealing with her, involves assuming the mantle of feminism in
>> order to empower herself. To understand Hyerdahl, you need to
>> understand that although she uses feminism as a cover, her purpose
>> here is purely personal.
>>
>> She may strike you as one of those mumbling street people who grab you
>> by the arm and talk in endless streams without making any sense, lost
>> in their own world of disturbed need. Unfortunately, the analogy is
>> apt.
>>
>> One of the most insecure people you'll probably ever meet, she is not
>> open to rational discourse, because the truth is not paramount for
>> her, as it is with innocent posters who reply to her. Only her own
>> empowerment is important, something that's quickly identifiable as the
>> common thread behind her rapidly shifting positions. As you'll find if
>> you reply to her, she'll change her point of view dozens of times or
>> more in a single discussion in order to assure herself she's the
>> winner.
>>
>> She's gone by various pseudonyms over the years, including Carol Ann
>> Hemmingway, Parg2000, Pargeon, Hyerdahl, Hyerdahl1, Hyerdahl3, etc.
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> How does Hyerdahl work?
>>
>> Hyerdahl is intelligent, but her unrelenting sense of insecurity
>> drives her posts. She operates in four specific ways to reassure
>> herself that she's "winning":
>>
>> 1.) Uses formulaic answers that don't address the issue (e.g., Man:
>> "Fathers should have more visitation rights." H:
"Men are no longer
>> allowed to shirk their child support responsibilities.") This allows
>> her to reply rapid-fire to many posts in an attempt to dominate
>> discussion without investing much real effort.
>>
>> 2.) Wants to speak for all "women," in a classic attempt at
>> self-empowerment (e.g., Man: "Fathers should have more visitation
>> rights." H: "Women no longer have to listen to what you
say.")
>>
>> 3.) Uses outright lies to try to make a point, as in, "There is no
>> message of gender supremacy [from feminists]; there is only legal
>> equality."
>>
>> 4.) Says that women now have guns to control men; the power need here
>> is obvious.
>>
>> 5.) Posts many anti-male news items to the group in an attempt to bait
>> other posters and dominate and/or steer discussion. This is a standard
>> troll tactic. Flooding news groups is against the usenet charter.
>>
>> Keep in mind that she'll quickly get abusive and personalize the
>> discussion if things don't appear to go her way. She has also
>> frequently accused women who argue with her of being men.
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> How do you deal with Hyerdahl?
>>
>> Do not take her at face value. When you realize that she's not arguing
>> the facts, but interested only in advantage over others and self
>> empowerment, you'll understand why she shifts ground so rapidly and
>> will ignore rather than concede a point. You'll also understand why,
>> when you corner her, she becomes abusive rather than give ground that
>> should be given.
>>
>> Do not believe you can discuss issues with her rationally, arriving at
>> some sort of conclusion. Hers is a megalomaniac neurosis and if you
>> play into it without thinking, you'll find that her world has only one
>> paradigm: she must always win.
>>
>> Most posters here have learned to ignore her. She's been here for many
>> years, and she's not about to change. That's a practical treatment,
>> but if you want a more humane solution, bear in mind as you reply to
>> her that you're dealing with a mentally disturbed person who has
>> become very needy. With that understanding, she won't get under your
>> skin and you can deal with her humanely. Don't drain a lot of energy
>> with her; we're here to discuss men's issues, not get sidetracked into
>> endless ad hominem attacks.
>>
>>
>



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