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from: Dustbin dustbin_address{at}
date: 2005-03-12 12:58:00
subject: Re: Where are all the women developers, gamers, and future b

Lee wrote:

> Aggy wrote:
>
>>MCP wrote:
>>
>>>"Aggy"  wrote in message
>>>news:AeAYd.72$3a.37{at}newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>>Have you even looked for them, dear? By looking I involve getting
>>>>off your arse and doing some research that isn't based on
>
> statistics
>
>>>>on a web page; something anyone can compose, dear.
>
>
> How about this fact.
>
> I know 4 programmers at an un-named monopolistically-challeged OS
> manufacturer near Seattle, Washington.
>
> The percentage of men who work as programmers and software engineers,
> not sales, or marketing, or accounting, is near 80%.  These are the
> people who do the actual work that makes 95% of the worlds pc's
> function.
>
> It is a well-known and given, to anyone with any experience or
> intellect (which your arrogance replaces with allusion, and nothing
> more, in all of your posts) fact that this is so in the IT field.
> Overwhelming numbers of men.
>
> One of my friends who got a job there, and he is average for this firm,
> scored the highest math score for the country of Canada for the year he
> graduated High School.  These men are very smart and gifted coders,
> every one.
>
> It doesn't take affirmative action, or even a degree to develop your
> own software business.  Buy a PC or 2 or 3.  Get 2 or 3 friends to help
> you get the business going.  Work 18 hour days for 5 - 7 years (This is
> where women fall flat.  There is no work/life balance if you want to
> succeed at this level. Pay your dues, or accede to those who do...) and
> you will likely have a going concern.  This is how Quake, SimCity,
> Amazon and Micro-soft all started.  Look at the picture of Micro-Soft
> ca. 1978.  9 men 2 women.  Andrea wrote manuals and Marla was the
> bookkeeper.  The men all wrote code, lots of it.
>
> The leader of the firm dropped out of college.  This is common for many
> gamers as well, although most now get a degree after they make a splash
> in the market.  The author of FireFox browser, Blake Ross, was 14 when
> he landed a job at Netscape.  He did it himself, on pure talent and
> drive.  Now 19, he updates FireFox while attending Stanford.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/02/07/1107625102289.html
>
> Where are the girls who are coding new browsers at 14?  Mr. Ross had no
> advantage over any other teenage girl his age.  All it took was a
> computer and the interest in the subject matter.
>
> Where are the girls who are coding new browsers at 14?
>

The WIMPs of womanhood couldn't do anything with
computers until the men made it easy for them by
creating Windows, Icons, Menus and Pointers.

I think they ought to be required to do it from
front-panel switches before they are let loose
on a big computer.

D.


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